John 4:36.What do you think it is saying?

[Gold fish]

John 4:36.What do you think it is saying?I think it is saying good deeds.Are precious in God's sight.

 

[Tolworth John]

John 4:36.What do you think it is saying?I think it is saying good deeds.Are precious in God's sight.

Read the contex, in an english version, 34 “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. 35 Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. 36 Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. 37 Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. 38 I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labor.”

Jesus is talking about there is work to be done, work for God's Kingdom.
It has nothing to do with good deeds and everything about the service due to God.

 

[BNR32FAN]

John 4:36.What do you think it is saying?I think it is saying good deeds.Are precious in God's sight.

Those who reap are believers who are reaping what Christ has sown which is our salvation. Now the reapers receiving wages and gathering fruit I believe are referring to the treasures we receive in heaven (the waves) and salvation itself (the fruit we gather). The reason I say this is because wages are something we work to earn and the fruit we gather is something that’s there ripe for the picking. That’s my interpretation.

 

[Minister Monardo]

John 4:36.What do you think it is saying?I think it is saying good deeds.Are precious in God's sight.

Matthew 6:
19 Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth
and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal;
20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break
in and steal.
21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

 

[Benjamin Müller]

Jesus Christ is the sower [Matt 13:37]
The reapers in this context are the apostles / church
They/we are expected to lead the church and continue in the ministry [Matt. 28:19]
They receive wages, which is eternal life.
However they must produce fruits [Gal. 5:22-23]

Galatians 6:9-10 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.

It's about doing the will of God; growing in grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ; doing the work of an evangelist; doing good works to all people, esp. those of the household of faith.

 

[dqhall]

It reminded me of this one, “The harvest is plentiful, the workers are few.” Matthew 9:17, Luke 10:2.

 

[ElenaMaria_9]

Read the contex, in an english version, 34 “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. 35 Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. 36 Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. 37 Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. 38 I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labor.”

Jesus is talking about there is work to be done, work for God's Kingdom.
It has nothing to do with good deeds and everything about the service due to God.

I agree with this. I suppose when the Bible talks about good deeds though this is the kind of thing Jesus had in mind. Preaching the good news, healing, giving to the needy.

 

[ElenaMaria_9]

Jesus Christ is the sower [Matt 13:37]
The reapers in this context are the apostles / church
They/we are expected to lead the church and continue in the ministry [Matt. 28:19]
They receive wages, which is eternal life.
However they must produce fruits [Gal. 5:22-23]

Galatians 6:9-10 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.

It's about doing the will of God; growing in grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ; doing the work of an evangelist; doing good works to all people, esp. those of the household of faith.

Yes.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Read the contex, in an english version, 34 “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. 35 Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. 36 Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. 37 Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. 38 I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labor.”

Jesus is talking about there is work to be done, work for God's Kingdom.
It has nothing to do with good deeds and everything about the service due to God.

I was about to say the same thing, but you got in before me. Well said!

 

[com7fy8]

John 4:36.What do you think it is saying?I think it is saying good deeds.Are precious in God's sight.

John 4:36 >

"'And he who reaps receives wages, and gathers fruit for eternal life, that both he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together.'" (John 4:36)

Well, before this verse we have how Jesus talked with the woman at the well. Jesus here is doing the work of our Father, and Jesus is relating personally with her. So, I see that this can mean that God's work includes personal relating . . . doing what God has us doing with each person, guided by Him. So, this work is in personal sharing with people while in submission to God.

And then Jesus says His laborers are reaping. Already, others have sown! But as we reap, we join with those who have already labored for Jesus and His kingdom. And so we in our work of God are sharing with His laborers who have gone before us. So, we are not isolated doing only what we can imagine and get ourselves to do, but God is guiding us in connection with all He already has had His people doing!

And this is "for eternal life". Does this mean we are earning our salvation? I don't think so. But it means that what we do with God is going to effect how we become; it is part of our process of preparing to spend eternity with Jesus and one another. For me, Galatians 6:7-8 supports this >

"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life." (Galatians 6:7-8)

So, we are talking about what we do in God's kingdom, with God in His personal guiding. And as we do things in His love, this love effects us . . . how we are becoming in our character. And with this, as Jesus says, we are sharing with others before us who have ministered.

So, you ask if our works are what are precious. Well, it is important what makes our works precious > God's love in us having us doing these works. This love is beautifully wonderful and changes us to become more and more like Jesus as we do the works of this love which makes us gentle and quiet in spirit; and here is what God's word says about being gentle and quiet in Jesus >

"rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God." (1 Peter 3:4)

So, if our works are precious to God, this is because of how we are becoming while doing these works, I would say

"Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom." (James 3:13)

And who is meek? Jesus. So, being gentle and quiet means being meek like Jesus. The works, then, need to have the quality of how Jesus is pleasing to our Father. And this we have while laboring in His love >

"And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)

We do things sweetly, then, not wasting ourselves in workaholic self abuse and burnout and self-righteous criticizing and comparing with wrong people and blaming! Jesus rests us while we obey Him >

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

So, our example of this is very important in our relating with people while we do the works. People need how we feed them our example of how to become and how to rest in Jesus.

And so we have preparation for this, in prayer > how we become with God in prayer > this is our standard for how to stay while doing His works!

And we have our examples of this, who have come before us and who have deposited this example for us, to feed us. We are feeding on love, as we pray and obey this. So, this is what possibly Jesus means by saying that His food is to do our Father's will. We are feeding on love, while we do things in this love.

And various scriptures feed us this > including > what to get rid of so we are with God and one another in love, instead >

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32)

So, thank you for praying this to me and feeding me your example of this

 

[Eloy Craft]

The woman at the well was no ordinary woman. She was a prophetess with a huge following. Her life is the key to the he riddle of the seven kings in Revelation. 5 of her husband's are passed, one now is and one is yet to come.
Samaria's history paralleled that pattern. Samaria had 5 vassal kings that were passed, the one ruling at the time was # 6. The one who is coming the Woman was waiting for. When He did come( Jesus) the many new believers asked Jesus to stay but He could only stay a short time. Jesus stayed only two days. He was on His way to the cross. (His destruction).
The Father prepared Samaria for mass conversion made possible by the amazing woman Jesus revealed Himself to at the well.

Jesus talked to her as if she was family. When did Jesus ever say to someone " the messiah you are waiting for is me. She was prepared to receive Christ as her Lord and Savior. She also made a straight way for the Samaritans to accept Jesus. No John the Baptist there. Hence the laborers who sowed in Samaria, sowed a crop ready for harvesting and that is what was happening.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

The woman at the well was no ordinary woman. She was a prophetess with a huge following. Her life is the key to the he riddle of the seven kings in Revelation. 5 of her husband's are passed, one now is and one is yet to come.
Samaria's history paralleled that pattern. Samaria had 5 vassal kings that were passed, the one ruling at the time was # 6. The one who is coming the Woman was waiting for. When He did come( Jesus) the many new believers asked Jesus to stay but He could only stay a short time. Jesus stayed only two days. He was on His way to the cross. (His destruction).
The Father prepared Samaria for mass conversion made possible by the amazing woman Jesus revealed Himself to at the well.

Jesus talked to her as if she was family. When did Jesus ever say to someone " the messiah you are waiting for is me. She was prepared to receive Christ as her Lord and Savior. She also made a straight way for the Samaritans to accept Jesus. No John the Baptist there. Hence the laborers who sowed in Samaria, sowed a crop ready for harvesting and that is what was happening.

Strange that the text doesn't mention her as a prophetess with a large following. I think you are reading into the text which is not there. That is called twisting the Scripture to make it say what you want it to say.

 

[Eloy Craft]

Strange that the text doesn't mention her as a prophetess with a large following. I think you are reading into the text which is not there. That is called twisting the Scripture to make it say what you want it to say.

John
Many Samaritans from that city believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I have ever done.”

Many believed because they believed this Woman.
Faith is through hearing and hearing the Word of God.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

John
Many Samaritans from that city believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I have ever done.”

Many believed because they believed this Woman.
Faith is through hearing and hearing the Word of God.

True. But the text does not label her as a prophetess. She was just an ordinary woman who came to draw water at the well who happened upon Jesus who asked her to draw some water for Him.

 

[Eloy Craft]

True. But the text does not label her as a prophetess. She was just an ordinary woman who came to draw water at the well who happened upon Jesus who asked her to draw some water for Him.

You understand the significance of the pattern of her personal life? What it means that the history of an entire nation parallels the history of one of it's citizens? Why that pattern is a riddle in Revelation? Why the statement "He told me everything I ever did" caused Many to believe?
Is there any other example of the Faith of one person causing faith in Christ to be given to " many" others?
Who else did Jesus admit to being the Christ so casually?
Oscar I know you believe things that are not explicitly expressed is the sacred text.

I don't know with so many unique and exclusive things happening in this account how you can say she is just an ordinary woman.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

You understand the significance of the pattern of her personal life? What it means that the history of an entire nation parallels the history of one of it's citizens? Why that pattern is a riddle in Revelation? Why the statement "He told me everything I ever did" caused Many to believe?
Is there any other example of the Faith of one person causing faith in Christ to be given to " many" others?
Who else did Jesus admit to being the Christ so casually?
Oscar I know you believe things that are not explicitly expressed is the sacred text.

I don't know with so many unique and exclusive things happening in this account how you can say she is just an ordinary woman.

This passage is not about the woman. It is about Jesus and what He told the woman. It is historical narrative which is descriptive in its nature. The only prescriptive statement that Jesus made is "The time will come when people will worship God in spirit and in truth." This is how we worship God. The rest of the narrative is what it is and nothing more. To extend it beyond what the narrative actually says is to go into theoretical ideas not intended. The woman's personal life doesn't matter because that is not what the story is about. In fact, the whole Gospel of John is about what Jesus said and did, and was written that we might believe in Him, be converted and be saved. Jesus' encounter with the Samaritan woman was just one link in the narrative chain.

 

[Eloy Craft]

This passage is not about the woman. It is about Jesus and what He told the woman. It is historical narrative which is descriptive in its nature. The only prescriptive statement that Jesus made is "The time will come when people will worship God in spirit and in truth." This is how we worship God. The rest of the narrative is what it is and nothing more. To extend it beyond what the narrative actually says is to go into theoretical ideas not intended. The woman's personal life doesn't matter because that is not what the story is about. In fact, the whole Gospel of John is about what Jesus said and did, and was written that we might believe in Him, be converted and be saved. Jesus' encounter with the Samaritan woman was just one link in the narrative chain.

Well, my modus operandi is to present the evidence and let it be. Thank you for sharing your view.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Well, my modus operandi is to present the evidence and let it be. Thank you for sharing your view.

Fair enough.