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"Jesus, what must I do to be saved?" Sincerity fizzles after seconds

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I can sincerely start on some seeking path, such as saying, "Jesus, what must I do to be saved?" then, after seconds, the sincerity disappears. That happened just now, for instance. I started saying (in my head), "Jesus, what must I do to be saved?" For a few seconds, I thought it was a sincere search for the answer. But then it just turns into a chant, with no sincerity in it.

Similarly, I have many times started saying "This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners." For a few seconds, it is a sincere attempt to seek Christ, seeking me. (Or at least, it seems sincere to me.) But shortly, after seconds, the sincerity fizzles and it just becomes a chant.

I experience or do a lot of that, where I think I start out sincerely, but after seconds, the sincerity goes away.

A related problem is my cynical approach to salvation and Jesus. I know that one can be saved in a moment, and that after that, they are saved no matter what. This knowledge apparently leads me to cynically seek to be "saved," so that I can just relax and not worry about whether or not I am in God's will, after that, since, after all, I am "saved." I want to be saved without "having" to live the Christian life. A person that cynical cannot be saved, I assume.

There are times when i try to "count the cost," and face up to the cost with the realization that Jesus/the Holy Spirit will enable me to face whatever I have to face as a Christian. Then I try to sincerely give my life to Christ. But as soon as I think I'm saved one or both of two things happen: One, I doubt I really meant it and doubt I'm saved, and, Two, my sincere desire to follow Jesus may not last very long. That desire may go away after just a moment, of after a few seconds. When I realize I'm not sincere, my attempt to seek/follow Jesus just collapses. But some time later, I start it up again, hoping this time to really get saved.
 

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May every wall of Jericho in your life be destroyed from the roots in JCN Amen.
 
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CS Lewis is pretty well known. He testified that he accepted Christ for a pretty simple reason. He believed it to be true. I got saved purely to save my hide and get a pass into heaven. I knew nothing else. The wonderful thing is that I got born again. That changed everything. I received a new nature and a new life, the Life of Christ. I struggled to make any sense of it for a very long time. Intellectuals are prone to that.

Fundamentally, all that we are in Adam dies on the cross. Lord Jesus raises us up to be new people. What we are prior to being born again no longer counts. We gain new motivation, new desires, a hatred of sin and a desire to know God. This is not the person that we know so well.

You don't have to live the Christian life. Does a bird try to fly? Nope, it flies because it is created to fly. Those who are born again are different people. Yes, we look the same, but people I knew wondered what had happened to me and wanted what I had. That changed when I told them the reason why......

God does not care about your motives for wanting to be a Christian. Let Him save you. Quit trying to do God's job for Him. Do you go to a menswear shop and worry about how sincere you are about buying something? Pick what you like, hand over some money and go home with it.

It is possible to overthink spiritual issues. There are some necessities. Do you agree with God's judgement that you are a sinner with no hope of saving yourself? Will you accept that Lord Jesus died to pay the price of all your sin, even the sinful doubts and double mindedness? God's time is NOW. Ask Him to save you, to be merciful and gracious to you. Tell Him your doubts and fears. God loves the honest sinner and rejects the self righteous. Ask Him to give you a change of heart, a gift of repentance. Tell Him that you have no hope of saving yourself (and that's the truth). Let's see what God can do!
 
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Bob812,
First, I saw on your earlier thread that you have OCD. I myself have this as well (along with anxiety disorder) and am reminded of my own obsessions regarding my salvation over 15 years ago. Feeling assured about my salvation became an obsession for me (but at the time I was not on appropriate medication either). Your two references to "chanting" indicates your OCD challenges.

Faith and belief leading to salvation is separate from feeling/emotion; rather it is about conviction and giving credence to what Christ has done for you personally (save you, a sinner, from the wrath of a holy God by justifying you before Him). If you recognize this then you are saved. With time and increasing spiritual maturity can a believer give increasing areas of his/her life to the Lord. That takes time, for sure.
 
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My computer went inoperable for a couple days, right after starting this thread. I just now read the responses. Thanks, folks! Sabertooth asked if I have OCD and Samaritan Woman looked at some of my earlier posts and found I have it. I read all responses.

Aussie Pete wrote:

"It is possible to overthink spiritual issues. There are some necessities. Do you agree with God's judgement that you are a sinner with no hope of saving yourself? Will you accept that Lord Jesus died to pay the price of all your sin, even the sinful doubts and double mindedness? God's time is NOW. Ask Him to save you, to be merciful and gracious to you. Tell Him your doubts and fears. God loves the honest sinner and rejects the self righteous. Ask Him to give you a change of heart, a gift of repentance. Tell Him that you have no hope of saving yourself (and that's the truth). Let's see what God can do!"

I realize, acknowledge and do all that you said. My doubts that keep coming back may be only OCD, but then I wonder if I'm not doing something right and not really getting saved, often.
 
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