Jesus Saves

[Reginald Taylor Jr]

1 Corithians 15:57 KJV
But thanks be to God,which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ rose from the dead after the third day and is God and Father.-Numbers 6:24-26 KJV

Jesus Saves Luke 19:10 KJV

 

[ARBITER01]

Jesus Christ rose from the dead after the third day and is God and Father.-Numbers 6:24-26 KJV

It seems we have another oneness Pentecostal here?

 

[jiminpa]

It seems we have another oneness Pentecostal here?

Is it not possible to believe that God is one, as Jesus and the prophets have stated, and yet still understand that God is distinct in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? The way I see it is that the Bible explicitly says that God is one, and Jesus said that if you've seen Him you've see the Father, and yet the Bible also shows a distinction between them. I don't understand it, but I can only go with what I see in the scripture, and Oneness and Trinitarian both seem equally true and equally faulty from my reading.

 

[ARBITER01]

Is it not possible to believe that God is one, as Jesus and the prophets have stated, and yet still understand that God is distinct in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? The way I see it is that the Bible explicitly says that God is one, and Jesus said that if you've seen Him you've see the Father, and yet the Bible also shows a distinction between them. I don't understand it, but I can only go with what I see in the scripture, and Oneness and Trinitarian both seem equally true and equally faulty from my reading.

The triune nature of GOD is 3 separate beings that are of the same Divine essence.

The Holy Spirit pointed him out to me a few months back. He's been making some statements that tend to assign The Lord GOD Almighty to Jesus, for instance,....

"God has blessed me with having faith in Jesus Christ God the Father"

Here he calls Jesus GOD The Father. I don't see this as a mistake from him, but as a concerted effort to try and promote a oneness teaching on here. On this site, anytime that a person calling themselves a Christian is overly promoting Jesus as GOD in their posts, is a sure fire sign that they are in this sort of camp.

If he is of this doctrinal stance, he should be over in the controversial section where he might find some agreement with such people.

 

[Reginald Taylor Jr]

It seems we have another oneness Pentecostal here?

Christian Pentecostal is one in believing Jesus Christ Is God not to bite and devour or become a circumstance.

 

[ARBITER01]

Christian Pentecostal is one in believing Jesus Christ Is God not to bite and devour or become a circumstance.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[jiminpa]

Jesus is God.

I don't see the Bible supporting a "3 gods, 1 essence makes 1 God," stance. I'm exaggerating the point a bit there. But to be clear, I think that Oneness and Trinitarian theology fall equally short, and are equally correct. This is where I do lean on an argument of mystery, since the finite can't comprehend the infinite. Jesus, who is God, states that God is one, but also clearly distinguishes between Himself, the Holy Spirit and Father more frequently than He speaks of Himself and the Father as the same. I can't make it work, but I don't have to.

 

[Reginald Taylor Jr]

You didn't answer the question.

If you choose not bite and devour and circumstance yes my answers = oneess Pentecostal. I do not bite,devour or circumstance . I have faith

 

[ARBITER01]

If you choose not bite and devour and circumstance yes my answers = oneess Pentecostal. I do not bite,devour or circumstance . I have faith

It's nice that your honest.

You're about the 6th person of this doctrinal stance since 2007 that The Holy Spirit pointed out to me. Discernment works when you give The Holy Spirit the pre-eminence in your life.

There's no rule against Oneness Pentecostals posting in this section, but you can't teach against the Nicene Creed. If I remember right, the one poster here By The Spirit is a Oneness Pentecostal and he's pretty darn amazing.

 

[Reginald Taylor Jr]

Nicene creed seems similar as oneness Pentecostal one Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost, God . NICENE CREED BRING RECALLS ME BACK TO THE PENTAGON AND MILIATARY

 

[David Lamb]

Nicene creed seems similar as oneness Pentecostal one Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost, God . NICENE CREED BRING RECALLS ME BACK TO THE PENTAGON AND MILIATARY

Do you mean that the Nicene Creed seems similar to Oneness Pentecostal beliefs? In what way does the Nicene Creed recall the Pentagon and military life? I'm afraid your post isn't very clear to me - sorry!

 

[Reginald Taylor Jr]

The definition of niçene creed is one Holy Spirit, one God, same as one Holy Ghost oness Pentecostal. And ways to the Pentagon and military are leadership of order and mandate

Do you mean that the Nicene Creed seems similar to Oneness Pentecostal beliefs? In what way does the Nicene Creed recall the Pentagon and military life? I'm afraid your post isn't very clear to me - sorry!

 

[David Lamb]

The definition of niçene creed is one Holy Spirit, one God, same as one Holy Ghost oness Pentecostal. And ways to the Pentagon and military are leadership of order and mandate

But the Nicene Creed speaks of the three Persons of the Godhead;

The Father: I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible;

The Son: And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of his Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary

The Holy Spirit: And I believe in the Holy Ghost the Lord, and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified; who spake by the Prophets.

Regarding order and mandate, the creeds are statements of belief, not orders or mandates. They say, "I believe......." not "You must believe......."

 

[Reginald Taylor Jr]

Yes like I quoted Christian Pentecostal is one in believing Jesus Christ Is God (The Father, The Son,Holy Spirit,)( Holy Ghost )not to bite and devour or become a circumstance.. Today I see nicene creed, creeds origin used today in government , world order, legislation, USA Today

But the Nicene Creed speaks of the three Persons of the Godhead;

The Father: I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible;

The Son: And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of his Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary

The Holy Spirit: And I believe in the Holy Ghost the Lord, and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified; who spake by the Prophets.

Regarding order and mandate, the creeds are statements of belief, not orders or mandates. They say, "I believe......." not "You must believe......."

 

[David Lamb]

Yes like I quoted Christian Pentecostal is one in believing Jesus Christ Is God (The Father, The Son,Holy Spirit,)( Holy Ghost )not to bite and devour or become a circumstance.. Today I see nicene creed, creeds origin used today in government , world order, legislation, USA Today

You say that Oneness Pentecostals (you actually wrote "Christian Pentecostals", but by no means all Pentecostals are the "Oneness" variety) believe Jesus Christ Is God (The Father, The Son,Holy Spirit,)( Holy Ghost ). The Nicene Creed doesn't say that Jesus Christ is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Regarding governments, I haven't heard of any government making reference to the Nicene Creed. Do you have an example of a government doing so?

 

[Reginald Taylor Jr]

Ok Yes Nicene Creed is referred to as Jesus Christ is Father, Son and Holy Spirit=One only God. Examples as government Nicene Creed references I have seen on CNN, USA Today , local news covid 19 finicial relief and awarded. When I seen Oneness Pentecostals it looked like to me Christian Pentecostals because the website blog is titled Christian Forums

 

[David Lamb]

Ok Yes Nicene Creed is referred to as Jesus Christ is Father, Son and Holy Spirit=One only God. Examples as government Nicen Creed references I have seen on CNN, USA Today , local news covid 19 finicial relief and awarded

I am in the UK, so I don't get to watch CNN, USA Today etc. Our local news and news about COVID never even mentioned the Nicene Creed, as far as I know.

 

[jiminpa]

I am in the UK, so I don't get to watch CNN, USA Today etc. Our local news and news about COVID never even mentioned the Nicene Creed, as far as I know.

I live in the U.S., and I've never heard of the Nicene Creed mentioned in conjunction with COVID reporting. I don't watch CNN, because they are incapable of any truth, so I could have missed a reference.

 

[Reginald Taylor Jr]

UK as the saying K11-6 is my rational? OK yeah check world news or something they have like McDonald's TV news or something?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

It's nice that your honest.

You're about the 6th person of this doctrinal stance since 2007 that The Holy Spirit pointed out to me. Discernment works when you give The Holy Spirit the pre-eminence in your life.

There's no rule against Oneness Pentecostals posting in this section, but you can't teach against the Nicene Creed. If I remember right, the one poster here By The Spirit is a Oneness Pentecostal and he's pretty darn amazing.

Well, you are wrong brother. I am NOT a Oneness Pentecostal, in fact Im not Pentecostal at all. Havent attended nor associated with a Pentecostal Fellowship in over a decade. But Im curious what you think Ive said that gives you that impression though. Such an accusation certainly should have ample, clear evidence. Not just a disagreement, yeah?

Actually I dont even care if you feel that way about me. But if you feel thats what the Holy Spirit is telling you, then you are not hearing properly because that is not the case. God bless