Jesus is my mother-a testimony

Amylisa said:

True that!

One thing that I think most men don't fully understand is that any expression of physical love, for a woman, is far more than merely "erotic". Sorry I am having trouble putting this into words.

For a woman, physical love is far more connected to the heart and to the soul. Whereas for men perhpas it could be just "rank eroticism." For a woman it is more a matter of deep and personal connection.

Not trying to insult the men around here! It's just that I can see how a guy could read certain things here and jump straight to the erotic aspect, missing the way a woman might look at things, the intent of the heart.

Just want to say i am happy to see this thread turning more into true discussion of topics rather than arguing.

I never knew the Orthodox don't really like Catholic saints. I have to say I know Nothing about Orthodox belief.

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Amylisa said:

That's what I was wondering too! In my area, most Catholic churches have a statue of Therese of Lisieux in the sanctuary. Her "Story of A Soul" was the first Catholic book I ever read (besides the Bible).
I would say she was instrumental in my becoming a Catholic, and she is my confirmation saint.

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Davidnic said:

True. Many mystics were very doubtful and frightened by their own visions. And extreme form of that is the example of I think it was Saint John of the Cross. He was once asked to give his opinion of a visionary. He saw the person and asked: "Are you the young lady who our Lord speaks to?" The woman answered immediately and enthusiastically that indeed she was. He told her it was good to meet her and left. He reported she was either lying or delusional.

Now, I am sure the attitude went a long way beyond the simple admitting of the fact of the visions. But the fact remains most visionaries/mystics are vilified and/or reluctant in their lifetimes.

In fact many works from mystics are known only after their death from private journals. In their life they do not or rarely speak of it since the insights were private in nature and purpose.

That is why we must always be careful with mystical writings. My problem in this thread is not with the advice of caution...but the manner of how it is given and presented on the whole.

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