Jesus fasted 40 days

[tonychanyt]

Exodus 34:

28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.

A person can survive without water for only about three days. In Moses's case, the fast was supernatural.

Luke 4:

2 where for forty days He was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and when they had ended, He was hungry.

How could Jesus survive without food for 40 days even though he was fully human?

David Blaine fasted for 44 days as a public stunt in 2003. He drank water every day and lost 25% of his weight.

Could we safely assume that Jesus had water to drink?

If Jesus had no water, then it was a supernatural fast. He might have drunk water.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Could we safely assume that Jesus had water to drink?

If it was a supernatural fast, then Jesus had no water. He might have drunk water.

Change of subject, maybe, but the logic seems weak here, to me. If Jesus had no water, then yes, it was a supernatural fast. But we have no way to claim that [it was not a supernatural fast unless he had no water]. Assuming he had water makes it neither supernatural nor un-supernatural.

 

[tonychanyt]

Change of subject, maybe, but the logic seems weak here, to me.

By logic, do you mean first-order logic? What not, then what kind of logic?

If Jesus had no water, then yes, it was a supernatural fast. But we have no way to claim that [it was not a supernatural fast unless he had no water]. Assuming he had water makes it neither supernatural nor un-supernatural.

Can you quote the words in which I made this claim?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Exodus 34:

A person can survive without water for only about three days. In Moses's case, the fast was supernatural.

Luke 4:

How could Jesus survive without food for 40 days even though he was fully human?

David Blaine fasted for 44 days as a public stunt in 2003. He drank water every day and lost 25% of his weight.

If it was a supernatural fast, then Jesus had no water. He might have drunk water.

John 4:32

 

[Mark Quayle]

tonychanyt said:

If it was a supernatural fast, then Jesus had no water.

By logic, do you mean first-order logic? What not, then what kind of logic?

I don't honestly know which is first-order or any other order logic. As far as I understand each, they are ways to come at orderly diagramming of statements. One kind of diagram doesn't deny nor counter another kind of logic. But, what do I know, is that if a thing follows, it is logical. And that statement, to me, doesn't follow.

Can you quote the words in which I made this claim?

tonychanyt said:
Could we safely assume that Jesus had water to drink?

If it was a supernatural fast, then Jesus had no water. He might have drunk water.


We can agree, that, had he no water, the 40 day fast would be supernatural. But we have no way to show that his fast can be supernatural ONLY if he had no water. It is illogical to say: "If he did have water, then his fast was not supernatural". Thus, then, one cannot conclude that if his fast was supernatural, then he could not have had water.

If you can show me otherwise without the fancy symbols, the meanings to which I don't know, please do. Please use English words.

 

[tonychanyt]

If it was a supernatural fast, then Jesus had no water. He might have drunk water.

I modified this statement. Take another look. Feel free to follow up. Thanks

You are a bit of a natural logician. Try

and see if you like it.

 

[Mark Quayle]

I modified this statement. Take another look. Feel free to follow up. Thanks

You are a bit of a natural logician. Try

and see if you like it.

I see your modified statement. That one I can agree with. I'll take a look at the media. Something is eating up my phone data, which is my internet source, so we'll see how long it goes.

 

[Mark Quayle]

I modified this statement. Take another look. Feel free to follow up. Thanks

You are a bit of a natural logician. Try

and see if you like it.

Your video: Beginning 6:46 the statement "'Robot is blue' implies 'Robot has an antenna'" is taken to be true if Robot is yellow, or if Robot has an antenna but is not blue. My problem with that is, the fact that the robot is yellow or the fact that the robot is not blue but has an antenna, in reality has no implications on the validity of the statement. The statement logically MAY BE true, but cannot be proven true (logically implied to be true) by the robot being yellow nor by the robot being not blue but having an antenna.

So, I'm not sure where this is going. But I will continue, to see if he qualifies that.


Well ...he doesn't —at least, not to my satisfaction— apparently this is only a discourse on the symbols and their meanings. And thanks for that. It would take me some time practicing with them to get to where I can read them naturally.

 

[tonychanyt]

apparently this is only a discourse on the symbols and their meanings.

Right. If interested, I recommend you search YouTube for "predicate logic" or, better yet, take an Introduction to Philosophy course from your local university.

 

[ChristinaL]

Exodus 34:


A person can survive without water for only about three days. In Moses's case, the fast was supernatural.

Luke 4:


How could Jesus survive without food for 40 days even though he was fully human?

David Blaine fasted for 44 days as a public stunt in 2003. He drank water every day and lost 25% of his weight.

Could we safely assume that Jesus had water to drink?

If Jesus had no water, then it was a supernatural fast. He might have drunk water.

No. Scripture is plenty clear he drank no water.

 

[tonychanyt]

No. Scripture is plenty clear he drank no water.

verse?

 

[ChristinaL]

verse?

Hmm I seem to have confused him with Moses