Ah, I can see where your confusion on this matter is. The word "made" here isn't "created". St. Paul writes, γενόμενον ἐκ γυναικός (genomenon ek gynaikos), "born of a woman". God sent forth His Son who was conceived and born of Mary, and genomenon hypo nomon, born under the Law.
This corresponds to the Creed where we read the the Son became man, born of the Virgin Mary.
No one said "flesh and blood came down from heaven". But the Scriptures clearly teach the the Eternal and Uncreated Logos became flesh (John 1:14), and that happened in Mary's womb. Thus we speak of God the Son "coming down from heaven" by becoming a human being, becoming flesh.
This is the doctrine of the Incarnation.
Which has nothing to do with this subject. Here the Apostle is talking about our present mortal and sinful condition. Our bodies, as they are, are not fit for the future world that God is making; so He is going to make our bodies fit for the kingdom by the resurrection. This is made more obvious when it is read in the entire context of 1 Corinthians 15.
The present body is mortal, corruptible (meaning it decays, falls apart, rots), and "soulish" (St. Paul calls it here in 1 Corinthians 15 a soma psuchekon, a "soulish body"). Whereas in the future resurrection of the dead, the body is raised up, transformed, it is no longer mortal but immortal, no longer corruptible, but incorruptible. It is sown a "soulish body" it is raised a "spiritual body" (soma pneumatikon). Compare with other Scripture, namely Romans 8:11 and Philippians 3:21.
No. The Holy Spirit is not the Father. This is made abundantly clear in many places, at Christ's baptism in the Jordan river St. John the Baptist beholds the voice of the Father "This is My beloved Son" and also beholds the Holy Spirit alight upon the Lord Jesus as a dove. The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are all present in Jesus' baptism. Also we have Christ our Lord who speaks very plainly that the Holy Spirit is the promise of the Father, and that the Father and He will send and give the Holy Spirit after He has ascended. Hence why He tells His disciples to wait in Jerusalem until the Holy Spirit falls upon them, which we read about in the 2nd chapter of the Acts of the Apostles.
No, the Holy Spirit is not the Father. The Father is the Father, and the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit. Two distinct Divine Persons, the same God.
Again, this is false.
Except, of course, that's not what the text says is it. It says there is one God, the Father, and one Lord Jesus Christ, and one Spirit, and there is one Body, the Church, one faith, one baptism, etc.
It does not mean that the Spirit is the Father, He's not. The Spirit is the Spirit, who proceeds from the Father.
God is spirit, and so they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth--because God is not going to be found in a temple made of stone by human hands, neither in Jerusalem nor at Gerizim. Rather God will reside in His chosen Temple, which is Christ and His Mystical Body, the Church. For we are a Temple of God made without hands, in which the Spirit Himself may dwell. For this reason we are told that even our very bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. See 1 Corinthians 3:16 for example.
By the power of the Holy Spirit our Lord became flesh in the womb of the Virgin Mary.
He is not called the Son because of His birth from Mary, but because He is the only-begotten of the Father, from all eternity: True and very God of God. He was in the beginning with God, and is Himself God (John 1:1) and He became flesh (John 1:14), and as the Incarnate God-Man shows us the Father (John 1:18).
The Holy Spirit isn't Jesus' father.
As far as His Deity goes, Jesus' Father is God the Father, because He is only-begotten of the Father from before all ages, as God of God.
As far as His humanity goes, He has no father except for His adopted father, St. Joseph, the husband and caretaker of St. Mary Theotokos.
It's clear from this exchange that you deny the Holy Trinity, in which case you should be made aware that this is a Christians Only area of the website, and that means all who post here must confess the Nicene Creed.
-CryptoLutheran
Ok, to begin, I see that you do not believe the King James Version is actually the word of God. So we are not going to see eye to eye. Let me ask you this, what is the point in going to the greek, if the greek has been accurately translated into English? The only answer would be is that you do not believe it was translated correctly. And I can see that when you responded to Galatians 4:4, you are saying it does not actually mean what it says. But it means something else. It does not mean "made", it means "born" of a woman. See, I believe exactly what it says. That the Son of God was made of a woman. You do not believe that I see, so we are definitely going to have some issues considering you don't believe what is written.
You said in your comment that the Son of God was eternally begotten, not made. I showed you the scripture that shows he was made, and you do not believe it means what it says.
Galatians 4:4
King James Version
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
The Son of God was made, according to the word of God. If you do not believe what it says, theres no point in speaking.
Next, the Logos or the Word. If you look at John 1:1 it says In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. It does not say at all that the word is a person. It says in the beginning was the Word. The problem is you have on your lutheran glasses when you read this scripture and don't see what it actually says. It says no where that the word is a person. The Word is exactly what it says, the word. Meaning the word of God. The words that come from the mouth of God, that is what the word is. It's pretty simple.
Also, there is no such thing as "the incarnation". Please speak as the oracles of God, because you don't have the authority to speak any other way. Incarnation is found no where in the scriptures.
John 1:1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Another thing, you said "He" was in the beginning with God. That is not true, the word of God says "the same was in the beginning with God". It does not say he was in the beginning with God. That's what those false doctrine versions say, that were written hundreds of years after the King James Version was written.
John 1:1-2
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Now on John 1:14, that is not the incarnation. That is when the Word was made flesh, meaning the words of God were made flesh. It's pretty simple. It does not say God was made flesh, it says the Word was made flesh. In John 1:1 where it says the word was God, that means it was God who spoke those words. Because there is no one with him in the beginning, neither does any of the scripture ever tell us there was anyone with him. In the real translation, the King James Version it says "the same was in the beginning with God". Not "he" was with God in the beginning.
John 1:14
King James Version
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Once again, the Father is the Holy Spirit. Let me prove it to you through the word of God.
In the Book of Leviticus, God tells the people that he is holy.
Leviticus 19:2
King James Version
2 Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy.
So, God is Holy according to Leviticus 19:2. Meaning, the Father is Holy.
Next, God is also a Spirit.
John 4:24
King James Version
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
So God is Holy.... and God is a Spirit. Quite obvious that is the Holy Spirit. And there is only one Spirit.
The word of God does not say there are 3 divine persons anywhere, that is a manmade teaching, a manmade doctrine.
And the Father of Jesus is God the Father, Jesus was conceived in the womb by the Holy Ghost. That makes the Holy Ghost his father. Once again, very obvious that the Holy Ghost is the Father. I just showed you scripture proving that God is holy, that is what he told the Israelites in the book of Leviticus, and God is a Spirit, that is what the Son of God said in the book of John.
And yes I do deny the fake Trinity, because Trinity is found no where in the word of God, and God is one. He never declared himself to be 3 divine persons.
Speak as the oracles of God when you respond to me please, because I do not take anyones words as the words of God.
1 Peter 4:11
King James Version
11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
