Jealousy

[quatona]

1. In which meaning do you use this word?
2. In regards to the definition you have given, do you think it´s positive/negative/neutral to be jealous?

 

[Penumbra]

I suppose there are many meanings and degrees of jealousy.

I think it's a positive thing to view things that you want in life and try to work towards them, but jealousy usually goes past that.

I guess jealousy, then, is an unbalanced desire for something that someone else has, and I think that is negative and a weakness.

It could also be an unbalanced over-protectedness of something you do have, for fear that you'll lose it. But if someone has to worry so much in order to defend something, it's probably not really theirs to begin with, anyway.

-Lyn

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Jealousy is the face behind the stage. It is the blistered puss-filled set of lips cushioning the razor daggers that only slice on the inside. This is why people can smile and say "I am so happy for you!" without leaving a drop of physical evidence of the inside genocide.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

1. In which meaning do you use this word?

Freaking out over someone taking what is supposedly yours.

2. In regards to the definition you have given, do you think it´s positive/negative/neutral to be jealous?

Negative. It's usually over a person. You cannot control a persons emotions and affections.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Jealousy is the face behind the stage. It is the blistered puss-filled set of lips cushioning the razor daggers that only slice on the inside. This is why people can smile and say "I am so happy for you!" without leaving a drop of physical evidence of the inside genocide.

That was pretty flippn cool. I'd like to have it, but I'd change it a bit to say:

Jealousy is the face behind a mask.

Then:

It is the blistered and twisted set of lips silent and tormented by the razor shapen slices on the inside.

This is why people can smile and say "I am so happy for you!" without leaving a sign of physical evidence of their personal agony.

Copyright 2009?

 

[Black Glory]

Truthfully, I think it depends heavily on the context and how you use that emotion.

The traditional definition is associated with envy, something that is typically negative and jealous IS typically negative.

However, if one becomes jealous of another person's life, which is a good and happy life; they use that jealousy to motivate themselves, they don't allow it to eat at them or to make them bitter, but to make their own life good and happy, I don't think it's so bad in the long run. Jealousy can be used as an inspiration.

On the otherhand, I agree with many of the statements above. People often feel jealous when it comes to someone or something that they love and DO allow that emotion to eat at them and make them bitter.

How many times have you seen a couple fighting over, "You were checking her out!" "No I wasn't!"

But, jealousy is natural and necessary for the human condition.

 

[Verv]

1. In which meaning do you use this word?
2. In regards to the definition you have given, do you think it´s positive/negative/neutral to be jealous?

Jealousy is something like 'desiring what someone else has and coveting it for oneself.'

Jealousy is often a natural, human emotion that is neutral -- e.g., who wouldn't want to have a billion dollars and not be a little jealous of someone who was born into it?

However, to actively be jealous of someone based off of something is a useless distraction to yourself and because it can potentially cause you to bear ill will to them it is also a negative factor.

Rather, as it goes, we should be happy for those who are receiving good things.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

The "you were checking her out!" thing isn't about jealousy........it's insecurity.

Truthfully, I think it depends heavily on the context and how you use that emotion.

The traditional definition is associated with envy, something that is typically negative and jealous IS typically negative.

However, if one becomes jealous of another person's life, which is a good and happy life; they use that jealousy to motivate themselves, they don't allow it to eat at them or to make them bitter, but to make their own life good and happy, I don't think it's so bad in the long run. Jealousy can be used as an inspiration.

On the otherhand, I agree with many of the statements above. People often feel jealous when it comes to someone or something that they love and DO allow that emotion to eat at them and make them bitter.

How many times have you seen a couple fighting over, "You were checking her out!" "No I wasn't!"

But, jealousy is natural and necessary for the human condition.

 

[Jade Margery]

My boyfriend can't stand to hear anything about my ex, (I don't talk about him much, but we have a lot of the same friends and they do sometimes.) Is that jealousy or insecurity? I can't tell.

Jealousy--like just about any human emotion--is a nebulous, relative thing. Where is the line between admiration and coveting? For example, I admire my brother's juggling and wish I could do the same, but I am jealous of my friend's artistic skills and wish I had them too. Perhaps it is the level of emotion and energy you put into the feeling?

Personally I don't like feeling jealous--it is often accompanied by a subconscious wish that the other person not have their nice thing, instead of simply wishing I had it too. Perhaps it has something to do with the competitiveness of human nature? Either way it makes me feel like a jerk, so I try to fight it by giving the person I'm jealous of sincere compliments and encouragement. In a way this puts us on the same 'side', like I'm rooting for them, and that helps.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

The answer to the first question: insecurity.


The second question: there isn't a blurred line.

My boyfriend can't stand to hear anything about my ex, (I don't talk about him much, but we have a lot of the same friends and they do sometimes.) Is that jealousy or insecurity? I can't tell.

Jealousy--like just about any human emotion--is a nebulous, relative thing. Where is the line between admiration and coveting? For example, I admire my brother's juggling and wish I could do the same, but I am jealous of my friend's artistic skills and wish I had them too. Perhaps it is the level of emotion and energy you put into the feeling?

Personally I don't like feeling jealous--it is often accompanied by a subconscious wish that the other person not have their nice thing, instead of simply wishing I had it too. Perhaps it has something to do with the competitiveness of human nature? Either way it makes me feel like a jerk, so I try to fight it by giving the person I'm jealous of sincere compliments and encouragement. In a way this puts us on the same 'side', like I'm rooting for them, and that helps.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

My boyfriend can't stand to hear anything about my ex, (I don't talk about him much, but we have a lot of the same friends and they do sometimes.) Is that jealousy or insecurity? I can't tell.

I think it's both. Or maybe both are inseperable.

Tell him to focus on the fact of the loser who he took you away from because obviously he wasn't up to the task of keeping you.

Jealousy--like just about any human emotion--is a nebulous, relative thing. Where is the line between admiration and coveting?

Uh, jealousy.

For example, I admire my brother's juggling and wish I could do the same, but I am jealous of my friend's artistic skills and wish I had them too.

That's frustration not jealousy. Jealousy would be if you were upset that you didn't create the same art your friend did.

Perhaps it is the level of emotion and energy you put into the feeling?

I believe that is exactly correct.

Personally I don't like feeling jealous--it is often accompanied by a subconscious wish that the other person not have their nice thing, instead of simply wishing I had it too.

Jealousy is a waste of time. Notice there are many other people and many foems of art. Many that would be cool to be with.

Perhaps it has something to do with the competitiveness of human nature?

You're awesome. I'm agreeing with that assessment completely.

Either way it makes me feel like a jerk, so I try to fight it by giving the person I'm jealous of sincere compliments and encouragement. In a way this puts us on the same 'side', like I'm rooting for them, and that helps.

Uhhh, that really doesn't work does it?

 

[quatona]

My boyfriend can't stand to hear anything about my ex, (I don't talk about him much, but we have a lot of the same friends and they do sometimes.) Is that jealousy or insecurity? I can't tell.

Supposedly both. Two different ways of looking at it.

 

[Jade Margery]

I think it's both. Or maybe both are inseperable.

Tell him to focus on the fact of the loser who he took you away from because obviously he wasn't up to the task of keeping you.

It's not a rational thing like that though, is it? Logic bounces right off the problem. Jealousy doesn't make sense, it just is.

That's frustration not jealousy. Jealousy would be if you were upset that you didn't create the same art your friend did.

I'm preeeetty sure it's jealousy. We're both in the same design major, and although we're both some of the best students in the class and get almost the same grades, her drawing is much better than mine. I am totally jealous but I work hard not to show it because she is a really good friend.

I don't think it's "the blistered puss-filled set of lips cushioning the razor daggers that only slice on the inside" so much as a squat, ugly, tiny monster throwing a little tantrum in the back of my head that I have to hit with a rolled up newspaper occasionally.

Jealousy is a waste of time. Notice there are many other people and many foems of art. Many that would be cool to be with.

Perhaps, but I must admit it has spurred me to work harder, and that has not been time wasted.

You're awesome.

I'm quoting you on this one. Probably put it in my signature or something.

Uhhh, that really doesn't work does it?

*shrug* It does for me. The compliments and encouragement have to be sincere though.

 

[jayem]

That was pretty flippn cool. I'd like to have it, but I'd change it a bit to say:

Jealousy is the face behind a mask.

Then:

It is the blistered and twisted set of lips silent and tormented by the razor shapen slices on the inside.

This is why people can smile and say "I am so happy for you!" without leaving a sign of physical evidence of their personal agony.

Copyright 2009?

That's good. But the best is still the green-eyed monster that doth mock the flesh on which it feeds. It just perfectly conveys how jealousy eats you from the inside. And can destroy you.

Hard to improve on the Bard.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

It's definitely not both. I've been on that side and would call it jealousy....but it was insecurity. The very first time I had no insecurities in a relationship had an ironic ending. She was going out of State for a friend's wedding and told me about this guy she dated a while before and that they were still friends....I said great..."Have a good time." later on she would confess she was very impressed with how secure and emotionally mature I was.....i'll be back with the rest of the story.

Supposedly both. Two different ways of looking at it.

 

[cantata]

I would say that jealousy is envy+possessiveness.

I don’t see much value in it. It seems to give people a misplaced sense of entitlement if they harbour it for too long.