I've got questions for christians

Agnostic157 said:

First of all I want to thank you all for taking your time answering my question, it shall not be in vain and I'll read what you all wrote on it.
I might private message someone further, thanks!



My reasons?
As I wrote in my introduction I'm a philosopher, my truth is gradually changing.
For the better I belive.
I'm intressted in you christian folks for 2 reasons, 1. We are pretty similar. 2. I'm intressted because you've got a truth you do not question.

Kind Regards / Agnostic157

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Well some of us question, not all of us are free of doubt and not everyone who is free of doubt is so because of their faith, some are so because they lack the willingness to consider, it isn't that they believe.

Also consider that we are "believers" we are not "knowers" ... there is much we do not know, we peer into a very dim glass and we only know it part and Christianity is full of variety too. We do not always agree with each other.

How do you feel we are similar?

When it comes to us not questioning this truth, look around this site, plenty of us are questioning and doubting and struggling, not all of us are so resolute though we do believe somethings, working those things out in our lives can be very difficult at times.

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Yesterday I felt something that I dont think I've felt before.
My shoulders is pretty much always under heavy preasure, I pretty much never have a peace of mind but yesterday just before I fell asleep I felt total calmness.
It was like a cold breeze inside of me, washing me over with calmness.
I couldnt think about stuff I normaly do, I was just amazed by the feeling.

Is this according to you God? If so why he decided to focus on me at this time?

Kind Regards / Agnostic157

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I can't say what that is but it is entirely possible that someone is praying for you or that some process has been going on in you for sometime, you posted this message yesterday, you felt the desire to before that, you came to these conclusions of Christians and felt it a worthy cause even before that... maybe you are going through some process that built up to that. I couldn't know.

When I was an atheist a process began in me that first caused me to longer care to argue that God didn't exist, at a later time I began to be willing to consider even though I did not believe in God I could not really know either way, then at a later time I began to be willing to consider that even though most surely didn't believe in one, one may exist, at a later time I began to be willing to search, I did not believe in any God but I made myself available to one and willing to reconsider if one would contact me, then finally I believe a God did contact me and I began to ask him to show himself to me and help me see and understand him.

It was a process that brought me from the place of being upset at the idea of religion to believing that a God existed and trying to talk to him. Though only the talking portion may be noticeable from afar, it was a lengthy process that I believe God had been working and nurturing and helping for sometime. It was not sudden at all.

Maybe you are a part of some process. If you are willing to consider that this is some God then there is a glimmer of faith in you and I suggest you try to talk to this God and ask him to show you who he is.

I believe his name is Jesus and if you are willing to consider that this God has done something for you then talk to him, it follows that such a God wouldn't mind talking to you.

Agnostic157 said:

Yesterday I felt something that I dont think I've felt before.
My shoulders is pretty much always under heavy preasure, I pretty much never have a peace of mind but yesterday just before I fell asleep I felt total calmness.
It was like a cold breeze inside of me, washing me over with calmness.
I couldnt think about stuff I normaly do, I was just amazed by the feeling.

Is this according to you God? If so why he decided to focus on me at this time?

Kind Regards / Agnostic157

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In many ways the Bible states that God is a God of peace. We have been reconciled with Him through Christ, and therefore we have peace with God (Rom 5). Christ gives us a peace that the world cannot take away (John 14-15). As we focus on Him we gain a peace that passes understanding and circumstances (Philippians 4). Jesus himself promises a spiritual rest to those who come to Him in faith:


I can't say what what you experienced was for sure, but I do know that if you keep seeking God earnestly you will be able to cease from your dead works, and you will find peace and rest in Him. It may well be that the Holy Spirit is wooing you. It is written that His kindness is what leads us to repentance. That was true with me.

Ecclesiastes 1:1-18 KJVR
(1) The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
(2) Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
(3) What profit hath a man of all his labor which he taketh under the sun?
(4) One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth forever.
(5) The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
(6) The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
(7) All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
(8) All things are full of labor; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
(9) The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
(10) Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
(11) There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
(12) I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.
(13) And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
(14) I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
(15) That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.
(16) I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.
(17) And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
(18) For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

Ecclesiastes 12:12 KJVR
(12) And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

the intellectual search for the existence of Almighty God is a futile pursuit. God, if there is a God, surely must have two requirements for those who would find Him - you must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him (Hebrews 11:6). if there were any irrefutable intellectual evidence of the existence of God it would have surely been found by now.

God is drawing you to Himself because He created you for fellowship with Him; you are responding to a 'homing beacon' He placed inside your heart before you were conceived in your mother's womb. there are only two possible responses; you can harden yourself and resist His call, or you can humble yourself and receive His love, fellowship, and direction for your life.

if i may be so bold, perhaps you're asking the wrong questions.

where did i come from?
who am i?
where am i going?

rather than try to answer these questions in a short post, you may be interested in Andrew Womack's free mp3 download of audio sessions on the answers; search his website for "Life's 3 most important questions". this is not an advertisement; there will be no request for donation; i am not affiliated with Andrew Womack Ministries - but i've heard these messages, and i believe they will help you find the answers you seek.

God loves you independent of your performance or worth; He loves you because He is so good. i hope you will continue your search for Him, and i know you will find Him if you do, because He is already there with you and always has been; He has given you the choice of knowing Him or rejecting Him, and He will respect the choice you make - choose life; choose God

I agree that it does... I commend you on your courage and good efforts. I hope the very best for you. It would be my pleasure to listen to you or try to answer any questions you have in the future though I wouldn't so high minded to expect to be able to answer them all.

I have some questions for you

How long have you considered yourself an agnostic?

Can relate that title to any event or time in your life and would you mind describing it to me?

Have you ever contained an existent spiritual belief?

Agnostic157 said:

I know christians are not all on the same "level" with eachother, this site prooves this.
But there's a core which you all agree upon, else you would not be able to call yourself christian.
To be honest with you, I dont know if we are similar.
This is what I think.
I think the root of all evil is selfishness, I try to be the man thats totally unselfish but it has its price in todays society.

Kind Regards / Agnostic157

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One way of characterizing sin is selfishness. Traditionally sin is rejecting God's way in favor of your own. I think it's reasonable to call that selfish.

There are different definitions of Christian, but at a minimum it requires a commitment to God as the boss, and to serving him through Christ. One could agree with us in many areas, e.g. in avoiding selfishness. But for us correct behavior is a result of God's work with us. That's probably the main difference between Christians and humanists who have similar ideas about how to act.

Agnostic157,

I think you misunderstand the meaning of the word agnostic and atheist and the difference between the two but that's only because I am a nerd and it's not really important. I would think whoever said that to you didn't actually know what it means and the way the word is used most often today... does not reflect it's etymology, the same goes for the word atheist. Most people don't understand where those words come from and what they originally meant. But i'm a nerd and I obsess over these things and most people don't.

I appreciate your answers

Agnostic157 said:

It's easier said than done, when you feel awefull most of the days.
Misunderstood by the world and not knowing whether God exists or not.
But I try to endure.

Kind Regards / Agnostic157

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It is a hard road indeed, but you are not alone my friend and you are not the first to do this.

Most people do not know how to trust themselves so they run from label to label and cannot bear not having some system that identifies them that existed before them that other people agree with. This is why when people stop believing one thing they look for a new system, something that matches them, they look for a new label, a new title, a new name... as if such things meant we were safe or could save us. It means they are always looking for something else to trust in... their own beliefs are never enough.

They must have a label and they must have people who agree with them... they refuse to walk without a security rope from some belief system, something besides themselves to be confident in. But you must be able to do this if you are to ever really be at peace with yourself and your beliefs.

If your trust is always in something else's testimony you will never find peace unless you just stop searching and put it all down and stop thinking, but a lot of people do that too.

This is why people are always asking "what am I?" "what does this mean?" "What do these beliefs qualify me as?" because they have to have a title.. a classification... but titles don't mean anything, just a bit of glitter on the box, that's all it is. You still believe what you do, look into your reasons, don't trust yourself just cus you have a sticker that sticks.

Agnostic157 said:

Hello dear citizens of the world. which I share it with.
I've got no religion right now, I'm agnostic as you might have noticed by my name.
I've got a few questions I would like to get answered by you.

1. Why was I lead into so much pain, am I borned cursed?

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Having never met you and knowing nothing about you, I don't have enough information to answer this question.

Agnostic157 said:

2. Why is society thriving on selfishness and what should be done about it?

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Because selfishness is what comes naturally to mankind which is the polar opposite of what God wants for us. God said, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" (Luke 6:31), unselfish. Man says, "Me first!!", selfish. And don't think that just because someone is a Christian, that they're not going to be selfish. Selfishness always rears it's ugly head. It's something I fight against everyday. Sometimes I win, sometimes not.

Agnostic157 said:

3. a) Does God have a plan for me as non christian aswell?
b) If so should I follow my heart of what I truly believe is my purpose?

I've been told this part of the forum can be used to ask you questions.

Kind Regards / Agnostic157

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Yes, God has a plan for all non-Christians, and that is, that you become a Christian and be saved (1 Timothy 2:4).

Agnostic157 said:

Hello dear citizens of the world. which I share it with.
I've got no religion right now, I'm agnostic as you might have noticed by my name.
I've got a few questions I would like to get answered by you.

1. Why was I lead into so much pain, am I borned cursed?

2. Why is society thriving on selfishness and what should be done about it?

3. a) Does God have a plan for me as non christian aswell?
b) If so should I follow my heart of what I truly believe is my purpose?

I've been told this part of the forum can be used to ask you questions.

Kind Regards / Agnostic157

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I would consider question number two, for your own self first, and let God deal with the world as He will.

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Pain is a part of life. We are given "feelings and nerves and sensations" in order to survive. If you felt no pain, then how would you know that you were wounded or bleeding in order to care for the injuries in order to survive? Some souls are born cursed and some souls are born blessed. It depends upon your parents. 2 evil and cursed parents produce the same seed, but if you have one good and blessed parent then the seed is also good and blessed. Also if an evil seed grows and accepts Christ's life in the place of their own then they are converted and translated from the kingdom of death and darkness to the kingdom of Lord and Life everlasting.

Society is made up of individuals: some individuals thrive on giving and helping others, and other individuals thrive on taking and selfishness.

Yes God's plan is for everyone that rejects him will be rejected by him, and everyone that accepts him will be accepted by him. That is why there are two abodes: heaven where God and his children reside, and hell where God and his children do not reside.

If your heart is unconverted, then following your heart is equal to unconverted pursuits, and what would be the purpose to follow desires that are not directed by God? Iesous says, "Take MY Yoke upon you and learn of me." He did not command any of his Creation to do their own things apart from his leading. When a child says I will do my own thing, and ignore my parents, then that child will suffer great exposure unsheltered from the nurturing of the parent, and may even perish without the parents wise influence and safety. So too as the prodigal son left his father to go do his own undisciplined life, and found himself in much pain and sorrow. many people whom turn their back upon God must suffer greatly in the hopes that they will return to the Shepherd and protector of our souls.

Draw near to the Lord, and he will draw near to you. Amen? Amen.

Yesterday I felt something that I dont think I've felt before.
My shoulders is pretty much always under heavy preasure, I pretty much never have a peace of mind but yesterday just before I fell asleep I felt total calmness.
It was like a cold breeze inside of me, washing me over with calmness.
I couldnt think about stuff I normaly do, I was just amazed by the feeling.

Is this according to you God? If so why he decided to focus on me at this time?

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Very beautiful. Sometimes I find it is purely God's involvement, and sometimes I realize that it's a time several people might be praying for me. There is value in prayer, even when it seems like we're just praying into blank space. Things happen. God responds.

I think the root of all evil is selfishness, I try to be the man thats totally unselfish but it has its price in todays society.

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It certainly has. It's good of you to try, even when it seems others advance for stepping on people's toes.

Agnostic157 said:

Hello dear citizens of the world. which I share it with.
I've got no religion right now, I'm agnostic as you might have noticed by my name.
I've got a few questions I would like to get answered by you.

1. Why was I lead into so much pain, am I borned cursed?

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Generic answer: That's life.

I don't know the depths of your pains, so I'm not trying to belittle them, but the fact remains that life sucks for all of us at times.

2. Why is society thriving on selfishness and what should be done about it?

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By thriving, do you mean "growing"? In that case, it is because the basic tenant of capitalism(the economic system most of the world uses to some degree) is greed. Greed drives capitalism. Businesses want profits, and consumers want goods. This concept is what makes a capitalist market grow.

Now, this "greed" can be taken too far. This is seen in the early 18th century with the formation of monopolies and businesses with no safety standards whatsoever. Workers would fall into vats of syrup(for example), and they would still sell the syrup. It was all about profit. So, we must have greed, but not the extent of abandoning morals.

3. a) Does God have a plan for me as non christian aswell?
b) If so should I follow my heart of what I truly believe is my purpose?

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No. He desires you to come to Him, and it is a part of His plan, but He does not have a life-plan for you as a non-Christian. Regardless, follow what your spirit says. Not those fluffy emotions, but your spirit. Your conscience(kinda).