Hi there,
So I have been grappling with understanding Heaven and I have learnt very soundly, that the Lord is all-patient. This is good, but it is also a burden for a mere mortal, such as myself - I don't have the stamina to do the will of the Lord, without a rest. Indeed God gives us rest on Earth, by giving us the Sabbath, without which, we would undoubtedly stray from the path (to the Lord). The point for me, I guess you could say is "what is the Sabbath, in Heaven?" - when do we, in our new bodies, get a break?
This lead me to wonder, how can God, an all-loving all-merciful god, provide for rest on Earth, but not in Heaven; surely there is something in Heaven, that gives us rest, just as the Sabbath does on Earth? The conclusion I reached, is that we share Heaven with the Lord. Just as He is able to bring Heaven to a halt, for whatever reason His Council can justify (in principle),, so to we are able to bring our part in Heaven to an end, when it suits us. This is not to say that we reject Heaven; it is just to say that even being as ready for Heaven as we are, to begin with,, so when we have for some time enjoyed Heaven (in general), the Lord is able to give us final and lasting rest - even from Heaven!
Now I am not saying this happens at once, nor am I saying that certain groups do at different times to others - possibly we will never know the details, until we get there. What I am saying that at some point, "rest" has to happen; the night is coming when no "man" can work, therefore there is a limit to what can be done for Man, this side of Heaven. It just stands to reason. I'm not even saying "I'll be the first, to quit", I am saying that I want to be judged on the basis of my words, words which if they were infinite, would be considered "foolish". I don't even think I will have to argue the point, with the Lord: I think we will be of one mind, about the end.
So yes, this is something many struggle with, this side of Heaven; a woman out of her depth, is fully entitled to break off a relationship with a man, rather than be defiled in a way she can't cope with; a man with a wayward tongue is favoured, once he has been silenced, such that as Solomon said "he has been done a favour". This is the point. From the outside, to our Heavenly relationship with the Lord, it may look as if our interest in each other is taking longer and longer, but as Einstein pointed out, as is relative will only be the more interested in the same Lord giving us that rest (where I differ with this last point about relativity, is that I don't think our relationship to God becomes a "singularity" or black hole or such, but I digress). This is within the law! It is possible to be in love with someone, without ever desiring to give more than we already have.
So, I guess what I am saying is that "for now, just be aware that I am resting on Sunday and that in time you won't hear anything from me on that Sunday" I can be reached to a point, before that Day and that Day won't come without warning, but I guess if you want to take note from my devotion to all of the Law, not just part of it, in this way, just take note that I just might not have time for arguments, I might not have time for rampant discussion and I most certainly don't have time for more of the past than the Lord paid for. At some point, I just want peace: and in Heaven, the fun stops whenever you want it to.
I hope I struck a chord with you, about this,, I want a solid commitment to the end for all the people who I have believed in the Lord with. It is special, it is different, it is all that we could ask or think - I am just asking that it "be enough".
Thanks.
So I have been grappling with understanding Heaven and I have learnt very soundly, that the Lord is all-patient. This is good, but it is also a burden for a mere mortal, such as myself - I don't have the stamina to do the will of the Lord, without a rest. Indeed God gives us rest on Earth, by giving us the Sabbath, without which, we would undoubtedly stray from the path (to the Lord). The point for me, I guess you could say is "what is the Sabbath, in Heaven?" - when do we, in our new bodies, get a break?
This lead me to wonder, how can God, an all-loving all-merciful god, provide for rest on Earth, but not in Heaven; surely there is something in Heaven, that gives us rest, just as the Sabbath does on Earth? The conclusion I reached, is that we share Heaven with the Lord. Just as He is able to bring Heaven to a halt, for whatever reason His Council can justify (in principle),, so to we are able to bring our part in Heaven to an end, when it suits us. This is not to say that we reject Heaven; it is just to say that even being as ready for Heaven as we are, to begin with,, so when we have for some time enjoyed Heaven (in general), the Lord is able to give us final and lasting rest - even from Heaven!
Now I am not saying this happens at once, nor am I saying that certain groups do at different times to others - possibly we will never know the details, until we get there. What I am saying that at some point, "rest" has to happen; the night is coming when no "man" can work, therefore there is a limit to what can be done for Man, this side of Heaven. It just stands to reason. I'm not even saying "I'll be the first, to quit", I am saying that I want to be judged on the basis of my words, words which if they were infinite, would be considered "foolish". I don't even think I will have to argue the point, with the Lord: I think we will be of one mind, about the end.
So yes, this is something many struggle with, this side of Heaven; a woman out of her depth, is fully entitled to break off a relationship with a man, rather than be defiled in a way she can't cope with; a man with a wayward tongue is favoured, once he has been silenced, such that as Solomon said "he has been done a favour". This is the point. From the outside, to our Heavenly relationship with the Lord, it may look as if our interest in each other is taking longer and longer, but as Einstein pointed out, as is relative will only be the more interested in the same Lord giving us that rest (where I differ with this last point about relativity, is that I don't think our relationship to God becomes a "singularity" or black hole or such, but I digress). This is within the law! It is possible to be in love with someone, without ever desiring to give more than we already have.
So, I guess what I am saying is that "for now, just be aware that I am resting on Sunday and that in time you won't hear anything from me on that Sunday" I can be reached to a point, before that Day and that Day won't come without warning, but I guess if you want to take note from my devotion to all of the Law, not just part of it, in this way, just take note that I just might not have time for arguments, I might not have time for rampant discussion and I most certainly don't have time for more of the past than the Lord paid for. At some point, I just want peace: and in Heaven, the fun stops whenever you want it to.
I hope I struck a chord with you, about this,, I want a solid commitment to the end for all the people who I have believed in the Lord with. It is special, it is different, it is all that we could ask or think - I am just asking that it "be enough".
Thanks.