It's a choice, is it?

[Archer93]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/12/eudy-simelane-corrective-rape-south-africa

My only comment- why, if it's a choice, do these women "choose" to put themselves in harm's way? Couldn't they just 'choose' to be straight?
Basically- it doesn't work like that. You love who you love.
We can no more choose not to love someone than your avarage Christian can choose not to love God.

"Corrective rape"- pfagh.

 

[Rois]

wow, 25 knife wounds? there is some serious anger there.

 

[SughaNSpice]

They could have chosen to lie

 

[FaithLikeARock]

And keep it locked up? Staying in the closet can be harder on the psyche of a homosexual man or woman than anything else. The idea that being gay is a choice is ridiculous. The idea of it being a sin is fairly ridiculous for the same reason. Because gays and lesbians go through so much discrimination and hatred and for very little to no reward. If it were a choice, they would drop it the first ten times they get called a <staff edit>. They don't. They live through it, sometimes, knowing that they can't change.

 

[lawtonfogle]

And keep it locked up? Staying in the closet can be harder on the psyche of a homosexual man or woman than anything else. The idea that being gay is a choice is ridiculous. The idea of it being a sin is fairly ridiculous for the same reason. Because gays and lesbians go through so much discrimination and hatred and for very little to no reward. If it were a choice, they would drop it the first ten times they get called a <staff edit>. They don't. They live through it, sometimes, knowing that they can't change.

No, keeping it on the inside isn't what is hard on the person. It isn't hiding it from everyone. Oh yes, that is worrisome, it does become annoying, but it just doesn't compare. Really, what compares to knowing the people walking around you would try to kill you, maybe rape you, because of who you are. You never hurt anyone but they hurt you, yet you are the evil one. And when everyone agrees, everyone, if they truly knew you, would spit of you, heck, you would consider it lucky if they just spat on you all the time, then you begin to see the true drain. I just wonder why this hasn't driving more homosexuals to outright hate, and then kill, those around them?

 

[FaithLikeARock]

No, keeping it on the inside isn't what is hard on the person. It isn't hiding it from everyone. Oh yes, that is worrisome, it does become annoying, but it just doesn't compare. Really, what compares to knowing the people walking around you would try to kill you, maybe rape you, because of who you are. You never hurt anyone but they hurt you, yet you are the evil one. And when everyone agrees, everyone, if they truly knew you, would spit of you, heck, you would consider it lucky if they just spat on you all the time, then you begin to see the true drain. I just wonder why this hasn't driving more homosexuals to outright hate, and then kill, those around them?

Of course that can be worse. But encouraging them to lie? Then you still have to be worried, not that someone will find out but also that someone will find out and kill you.

 

[grapeape]

it is all choice. It is all you have.

 

[OhhEmmGee]

I agree with you, it is not a choice. I wish everyday of my life that I was heterosexual. I've thought about dating men. However, it can't because it would be deceitful to my self and the man. It is unfortunate that people have to go through such abuse with something they can not control

 

[Archer93]

They could have chosen to lie

Which, IIRC, is a sin as well, isn't it?

 

[Archer93]

No, keeping it on the inside isn't what is hard on the person. It isn't hiding it from everyone. Oh yes, that is worrisome, it does become annoying, but it just doesn't compare. Really, what compares to knowing the people walking around you would try to kill you, maybe rape you, because of who you are. You never hurt anyone but they hurt you, yet you are the evil one. And when everyone agrees, everyone, if they truly knew you, would spit of you, heck, you would consider it lucky if they just spat on you all the time, then you begin to see the true drain. I just wonder why this hasn't driving more homosexuals to outright hate, and then kill, those around them?

One- not everyone hates us because of our sexuality, although it is worse in some parts of the world.
Two- we're better than that.
I'm lucky in that I've never encountered any hate because of my sexuality, but it's terrible that not being attacked because I'm behaving with my girlfriend in the same way that straight couples behave contitutes 'being lucky' in the first place.

 

[lawtonfogle]

One- not everyone hates us because of our sexuality, although it is worse in some parts of the world.
Two- we're better than that.
I'm lucky in that I've never encountered any hate because of my sexuality, but it's terrible that not being attacked because I'm behaving with my girlfriend in the same way that straight couples behave contitutes 'being lucky' in the first place.

Yes, most people are better than that, but people fall, and the attitudes I see many give homosexuals only encourages them to. Luckily though, not everyone hates you, which is probably the reason that doesn't happen.

 

[morningstar2651]

They could have chosen to lie

Isn't lying unethical... or does that commandment only apply when you're straight?

 

[SughaNSpice]

Isn't lying unethical... or does that commandment only apply when you're straight?

More than a few conservative Christian web sites seem to think lying isn’t a sin – as long as you are lying about gays