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What do neurologists actually say about personhood?
You should probably research these things a little before making such pronouncements. What makes you think an artificial abortion is any more violent or traumatic than a natural one?Abortion is a violent trauma to the womb of the mother. It should be shown in medical exam.
Human life=/=human being/person"In Human Embryology the terms understood to be integral in the common sense ... consensus that a human life begins at conception ..."
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/kisc/kisc_04whenlifebegins1.html
Yes. Darn women!I don't have an answer for that.
But that in no way justifies the existence of abortuaries or the legality of abortion.
But it really comes down to the fundamental problem of sin. Why are women desiring abortions? Often it is out of convenience, selfishness, coercion, fear and ignorance. The women are acting out of their inherent sinful nature. They are murderers at heart. And apart from the transforming work of God in their life, they will not seen the precious nature of all life, especially vulnerable life in the womb. They will not see the sinful risks of casual, promiscuous sexual encounters where they pursue only their selfish desires and lusts. They will not take responsibility for their actions.
"In Human Embryology the terms understood to be integral in the common sense ... consensus that a human life begins at conception ..."
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/kisc/kisc_04whenlifebegins1.html
Since this is a societal question we answer it as a society.
"In Human Embryology the terms understood to be integral in the common sense ... consensus that a human life begins at conception, ..."
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/kisc/kisc_04whenlifebegins1.html
That seems to not be the case. If we were truly to answer this as a society, for example, in the US then abortion would be illegal in TX and fully legal in CA. Instead we had it answered by 7 of 9 judges. That is not how society decides.
What is legal does not mean that it is moral. When Hitler was in power, it was legal to kill the unproductive members of society. Before the emancipation of blacks, it was legal to mistreat blacks. Morality trumps legality.
You do understand that simply searching for words like "Human being" in a science article does not make anything that match it "a scientific fact" correct? That science has to be something that directly addresses the question at hand. This is why no court has been convinced by this "science". It is not because they are biased but because this is a question science does not address no matter how many pro life sites attempt to desperately piece a case together with text books and dictionaries.
Once a woman is already pregnant, the choice to not be pregnant has evaporated!
Of course. That is why you actually have to read the full text. What I gave you was a neutral list of sites to explore.
23+23 still equals 46. Can't escape that. That is the point where we have a new distinct human being. I don't see any opposing views scientifically. I do see quite a few bioethicists and philosophers arguing against 'personhood.' The science profession will not touch 'personhood' with a 10 foot pole because they know how politically charged it is. But they can't deny scientific fact.
What we have at conception is not a pig, rat or cow. It is a distinct human being----homo sapien sapien
You are wrong! What you say might be true if the choice is between the life of the mother and the life of the unborn, but it is not true when the choice is between a few months of inconvenience and the permanent deprivation of life. Common sense should prevail here!
Do you prefer sharia law? Or perhaps you would prefer lawlessness? Civilization does not work without law.I don't recognise any claims made concerning a god's supposed wishes. This discussion is centered around HUMANS wanting to introduce a law.
Wrong again! This is a Christian forum. Therefore, what is posted here should take into account the premise that we are the result of God's creative action.
Do you prefer sharia law? Or perhaps you would prefer lawlessness? Civilization does not work without law.
There is no separation between religion and law. Man's law is a failure always has been and always well be. In fact that is the exact argument you are making is what a failure man's law is. If you realize it or not, only God's laws work. All of the natural laws of the universe are God's laws and they all work just fine. Without the natural laws we would have nothing. Atoms are composed of particles called protons, electrons and neutrons. They follow the natural laws to make elements and they make up the known universe. Of course very little of this universe is matter, it is mostly energy.And it has.
The laws which prevail in both your country and mine reflect the common sense of our communities. I know that you hate this simple fact, but fact it is.....most people disagree with you and so do the courts!
The same way we deal with other alleged crimes. Most crimes are never solved, and we do not file charges when the evidence is rather weak. Besides, we use common sense and ignore cases where pursuing them is impractical.
Not silly at all. We are not allowed to shoot through a front door and kill another person just because we 'think' they may cause us harm. We don't know. With abortion as you present it, there are unknowns to your definition of personhood. Or have you defined personhood? Even so, why would your definition be valid?
The money I use says: "In God we trust."
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