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It is my contention that John 3:16 has been forever mistranslated....

packermann

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the issue isn't merely horrendous sin , but far worse , Horrendous sin being granted a cloak , THAT is the issue , and that is the real reason RCC attendance figures have dramatically slumped.


I already showed that the cover-ups are not isolated to be only with Catholic Church. So this is not an issue with the CC only.
Catholic Church attendance has declined in Europe and the United States, but has increased in the third-world countries. The same goes for Protestant churches. The real reason for the decline in Catholic and Protestant church attendance in affluent countries is because of secularism and materialism.

The percentage of people who attended a Christian church each week decreased significantly between 1990 and 2000.

Church Attendance In America Is Declining
 
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All I am doing is defending my Catholic faith when it is attacked. I didn't start the fire.

Trying to spread the fire is not the way to put it out.
 
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Impossible as they were chosen before they did good or bad, before believing.

Therefore they are not "already believing when they believed" which is absurd on the face of it, and totally unscriptural.

The text says what it says, its your beliefs that require adjustment.
 
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Sorry, but it's your comprehension that requires adjustment. He did not say "they were already believing when they believed". That's your skewed misinformation speaking. There was a point in time where they began believing, and that was because they were chosen before the foundation of the world. That choice of them was manifested in time, so there was a time when they did not believe, before the time He appointed for them to believe.

This is elementary logic, LOC. Why are you have trouble accepting it?
 
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