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Israel is losing Americans (support)

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Some interesting poll results in this article from Jewish Voice for Peace

Israel is losing Americans. - JVP

 

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Not at all surprised.

Either we can believe the UN, DOZENS of aid organizations with boots on the ground; doctors in hospitals; agents supporting indivdiuals; data supporting it.

Or we have to believe Israel because muslims can't be trusted.


If you set yourself up like that, at some point, things will not go your way.
 
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What we do have excellent access to is the fact that current Israeli policy is being driven by extreme ideologues.

For me, that helps validate many of the claims now being made against Israel.
 
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What we do have excellent access to is the fact that current Israeli policy is being driven by extreme ideologues.

For me, that helps validate many of the claims now being made against Israel.
Yes! I agree. I TOTALLY agree that many Israelis do NOT support what is happenning in Gaza right now.

But it's their government that is awful.
 
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Netenyahu has absolutely trashed Israel’s reputation around the world. It will probably take a long time along with regime change before people start to come back around in supporting this rogue state.
 
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I think that Americans have lost support for Israeli leadership. Most Americans are kind, just people who cannot justify what much of the world rightly call war crimes.

It seems similar to how people in other countries have developed an antipathy towards the U.S., causing massive decreases in tourism and protests worldwide. They don't hate America and the values we used to stand for. They oppose the leadership 49.9% of Americans voted in.
 
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Logically, more disdain for Israel has to happen if one believes that Israel will be attacked in the end times. Because if that prophecy is a true interpretation, then America is either too weak, or too anti-Israeli to help them any longer. The big question though is Trump helping facilitate the changing opinion of Americans on the Israel? After all Trump's unwavering support is enabling Netanyahu to be so bold.
 
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Yes. There is a shrinking but vocal group that seems completely fine with what's happenning over there.
The majority of Americans still support Isreal, despite the rhetoric from the left.
 
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The majority of Americans still support Isreal, despite the rhetoric from the left.

About half of Americans have unfavorable views of Israel. Perhaps not the majority, but a significant number. Among younger Americans, it's a clear majority.
 
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About half of Americans have unfavorable views of Israel. Perhaps not the majority, but a significant number. Among younger Americans, it's a clear majority.
And those unfavorable views are not necessarily antisemitism or support for terrorism.
 
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Israel has a lot to answer for but bad US Middle East foreign policy has created the bigger mess. The criminal Palestinian leaders will always want Israel destroyed nonetheless. This goes back to destabilizing the Shah of Iran & the Camp David Peace accords that brought Israel & the Palestinians into US dependency.
 
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Giving Hamas amnesty and a path out of Gaza?

To do what terrorize the rest of the world?

No.

We were hard pressed to get Arab countries to accept elderly and infirm Palestinians because Hamas is so dangerous wherever they are.

What happens when every other nation on earth refuses to take the terrorists and we've offered amnesty and a path out of Gaza? Are we going to end up taking them? you know the left would!

Even the idea is insane to give amnesty to terrorists that burn babies in ovens and slaughter the elderly. If it's pulling teeth to get Saudi Arabia to take a sick and elderly Palestinian it's impossible to get them to take Hamas.

I know people just want to be done with Israel but this isn't the way.
 
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Hazelponi: I remember the Syrian refugees during Trump's first term. He refused to take a single refugee even though our screening procedures were far more stringent and lengthy than other countries.

Approval of refugee status took two years. Let's assume (since it's true) that Gaza has 3 million "refugees." It's also said that there are 30,000 members of Hamas. And you seem to be suggesting that 2,970,000 desperate refugees should be turned away to prevent opening our door to 30,000 members of Hamas.

We need to vet refugees thoroughly. We don't need sensationalistic, hate-filled midnight tweets, Muslim bans, name-calling, and what's going on now. These victims may not look like you. They might have different religious faith. But our common religious faith, Christianity, commands us to be compassionate.
 
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LOL

What are they going to return to? Bombed out infrastructure and school. 0 hospitals.

I seriously wonder what a peace plan would look like.
What do you propose?
 
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