Isaiah The Underated Prophet

[Thefunkyfundy]

Cults like the Bahai among others denounce God in Human form to be nothing more than a prophet the same as mohamed Budha, and Moses

Im just wondering why Elijah (sorry folks silly mistake saying Isaiah) doesn't qualify or bare mentioning given the amazing miracles he did including feeding many with a few loaves, raising the dead, parting the waters, calling down fire from heaven and many many many amazing miracles not to mention dissapearing up to heaven on a chariot of fire.

WOW!

 

[lesliedellow]

Your knowledge of the Bible is apparently not all that it could be.

Elijah raised the dead, called down fire from heaven and went up to heaven in a chariot of fire.

Moses ans Joshua parted the waters of the Dead Sea and the River Jordan respectively.

So far as I can recall, there is no feeding of a multitude outside of the New Testament, where it was Jesus who performed the miracle.

Again, so far as I can recall, no miracles are attributed to Isaiah.

 

[kayus]

That is right. You got this character all wrong.It wasn't Isiah that call fire down from heaven ,parted the river Jordan,raised the dead,multiply the flour and oil of the widow of Zarephat.This nobody but Elijah.

Concerning why this prophet was underrated using your word,You should know that Elijah was a man.Flesh and blood.He was born by purely human parents.But Jesus, was born only of human mother.His conception was by the Holy Spirit.It is God's that makes the conception Of Jesus.

So, no man can ever be greater than Jesus.His ministry though similar to Elijah but was far pivotal and important than Elijah.He is the messiah with message of the kingdom of God.But Elijah was a prophet for only Israel nation and to warn them of their evil ways.

 

[Thefunkyfundy]

Your knowledge of the Bible is apparently not all that it could be.

Elijah raised the dead, called down fire from heaven and went up to heaven in a chariot of fire.

Moses ans Joshua parted the waters of the Dead Sea and the River Jordan respectively.

So far as I can recall, there is no feeding of a multitude outside of the New Testament, where it was Jesus who performed the miracle.

Again, so far as I can recall, no miracles are attributed to Isaiah.

My Mistake, Elijah is exactly who I meant. Please forgive me for my silly mistake.

 

[Thefunkyfundy]

That is right. You got this character all wrong.It wasn't Isiah that call fire down from heaven ,parted the river Jordan,raised the dead,multiply the flour and oil of the widow of Zarephat.This nobody but Elijah.

Concerning why this prophet was underrated using your word,You should know that Elijah was a man.Flesh and blood.He was born by purely human parents.But Jesus, was born only of human mother.His conception was by the Holy Spirit.It is God's that makes the conception Of Jesus.

So, no man can ever be greater than Jesus.His ministry though similar to Elijah but was far pivotal and important than Elijah.He is the messiah with message of the kingdom of God.But Elijah was a prophet for only Israel nation and to warn them of their evil ways.

Youve missed my point. I know he is a man, I already said the cults relegate Jesus to a mere man. I really meant why is Elijah so underated by the false cults. I regret starting this thread now. Doh!

2Ki 4:43 The miracle of the bread.

 

[ebedmelech]

Cults like the Bahai among others denounve God in Human form to ne nothing more than a prophet the same as mohamed Budha, and Moses

Im just wondering why Elijah (sorry folks silly mistake saying Isaiah) doesn't qualify or bare mentioning given the amazing miracles he did including feeding thousands with a few loaves, raising the dead, Parting the waters, calling down fire from heaven and many many many amazing miracle not to mention dissapearing up to heaven on a chariot of fire.

WOW!

He's a different kind of prophet. He's not underrated at all. God just didn't use Elijah to write a prophecy.

When you see that John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah that should tell you something.

He pops on the scene as Elijah the Tishbite in 1 Kings 17 and is the focus until God takes him up in 2 Kings 2:11.

He is one of 2 men we know God took up to heaven.

I don't think anyone considers Elijah underrated.

 

[Thefunkyfundy]

He's a different kind of prophet. He's not underrated at all. God just didn't use Elijah to write a prophecy.

When you see that John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah that should tell you something.

He pops on the scene as Elijah the Tishbite in 1 Kings 17 and is the focus until God takes him up in 2 Kings 2:11.

He is one of 2 men we know God took up to heaven.

I don't think anyone considers Elijah underrated.

Christians obviously dont underate Elijah but in my opinion he is underated by cults like the bahai who name Moses and Mohamed and Buhda but not him, OBVIOUSLY. I think Elijah blows them all out of the water accept Christ of course. My point isn't Christians underating Elijah. Okay?

Man.

 

[DamianWarS]

Youve missed my point. I know he is a man, I already said the cults relegate Jesus to a mere man. I really meant why is Elijah so underated by the false cults. I regret start this thread now. Doh!

2Ki 4:43 The miracle of the bread.

In terms of "false cults" Elijah would only be relevant in Abrahamic religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam and Elijah is regarded as a prophet in all those religions. When a Muslim mentions the name of Elijah the phrase "may peace be upon him" usually follows as is the custom of respect with all prophets in Islam like Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad. However although Elijah does appear in the Quran he is not a dominate figure and plays a pretty small role, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean by "underrated". This isn't out of character for the Quran and I would'nt interpret it as underrating Elijah as the Quran is a cryptic mess of propaganda; it doesn't spend a lot of time talking about anybody and largely assumes the written accounts in the Torah (Taurat) and Gospels (Injeel). Of course Judaism and Christianity has Elijah as a dominate figure with Elijah possibly even being one of the two witnesses mentioned in Rev 11. I don't know what other religions or "false cults" would have cause to regard Elijah as prophet. Perhaps some examples would help?

 

[Thefunkyfundy]

In terms of "false cults" Elijah would only be relevant in Abrahamic religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam and Elijah is regarded as a prophet in all those religions. When a Muslim mentions the name of Elijah the phrase "may peace be upon him" usually follows as is the custom of respect with all prophets in Islam like Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad. However although Elijah does appear in the Quran he is not a dominate figure and plays a pretty small role, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean by "underrated". This isn't out of character for the Quran and I would'nt interpret it as underrating Elijah as the Quran is a cryptic mess of propaganda; it doesn't spend a lot of time talking about anybody and largely assumes the written accounts in the Torah (Taurat) and Gospels (Injeel). Of course Judaism and Christianity has Elijah as a dominate figure with Elijah possibly even being one of the two witnesses mentioned in Rev 11. I don't know what other religions or "false cults" would have cause to regard Elijah as prophet. Perhaps some examples would help?

I think where I'm coming from, if I think about it, is that the Lord has only recently been showing me how incredible Elijah really was. Ive used a pretty bad analogy to express that. Forgive me.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Cults like the Bahai among others denounve God in Human form to ne nothing more than a prophet the same as mohamed Budha, and Moses

Im just wondering why Elijah (sorry folks silly mistake saying Isaiah) doesn't qualify or bare mentioning given the amazing miracles he did including feeding thousands with a few loaves, raising the dead, Parting the waters, calling down fire from heaven and many many many amazing miracle not to mention dissapearing up to heaven on a chariot of fire.

WOW!

I wouldn't exactly call the Baha'i a cult. It's a distinct religion, and doesn't meet the criteria for cult-status whether theologically or sociologically.

As far as I know the Baha'i do regard Elijah to be a prophet, not a Manifestation like Moses, Buddha, Jesus, et al; but a prophet nonetheless. According to Baha'i teaching, the Bab fulfilled the prophesy of Elijah's return--which naturally seems to mean they acknowledge the importance of Elijah as a prophet. Of course this, along with a vast amount of Baha'i theology, is incompatible with Christianity, as Christianity teaches that the prophecy of Elijah's return was fulfilled in the person of St. John the Baptist, according to the explicit words of Jesus in the Gospel.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ebedmelech]

Christians obviously dont underate Elijah but in my opinion he is underated by cults like the bahai who name Moses and Mohamed and Buhda but not him, OBVIOUSLY. I think Elijah blows them all out of the water accept Christ of course. My point isn't Christians underating Elijah. Okay?

Man.

Ok. I understand that....but why are you relating this to Bahai?

Elijah went up against the prophets of Baal, not Bahai. The Bahai faith was not even in existence then. It was Baal worship.

What the cults think of Elijah is quite irrelevant...He's God's man at the time and God demonstrates that through him.