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No, because the "second role" is obvious to everybody. They couldn't claim that they were living in an age of universal peace and knowledge of God when those conditions were not met.
yeah, that hasn't happened either.
What tactics? I am giving you what I read and can find. Jews for Jesus tactics don't work on me.
Originally Posted by hamashiachagape
More stuff has to happen than just that though...you and I both know this.
They never mentioned for instance, the Torah going forth from Zion, and also all of the Gentiles coming up to celebrate Sukkot.
Excuse me?? Do I not exist?? Or am I just here to amuse you?!? [/Joe Pesci]
Seriously B&w, you don't see yourself stopping your ears just a tad on this one?
Saw some of Brown's stuff. Did not agree with him.
Saw some of it, or read his books? Some of the stuff online is...decent. I kind of wish he would go into more detail on ICN Ministries. But his books are remarkable on this subject.
My parents gave me a book. Read a bit and decided I would rather read Heschel and other rabbis.
You don't keep the Torah or celebrate Sukkot.
Why do i even know what they are?
If not for him, I'd be a Neo-Platonic Christian who felt sympathy for Jews. I would still be arguing with you about the early church father material, and probably would never have decided to scope out Jewish material. I'd still be following Christian traditions. I gave up a lot. And believe it or not, as hard as this might be for you to believe, it was very hard going against the traditions of my family and taking on traditions of Judaism. Imagine what a Christian family would say to the son who decided to stop eating ham sandwiches on Easter (muchless not even choosing to observe it with them) and worse, to the son who said, "I'm not giving you presents this year for Christmas."
I am a convert from an Evangelical family who has to deal with being told my family will try to convert my children against my will.
I'm sorry to hear that. I know that I'm going to have to face this pressure someday myself. My mother is a very dominating personality. But God will help us through this. He loves you and I both.
Honestly, you would have to understand why I walked away from Christianity to understand that, regardless of any arguments, I know Jesus is nothing special. This is not an insult to Christians who believe otherwise. I'm only speaking for myself.
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