I have a christian friend and I caught some porn on his computer and I told him that it is a sin and he is comitting adultery and in book of Mathew Jesus says,"I say ANYONE who even looks at a women with lust has already comitted adultery". And he tells me that how can I commit adultery if I'm not married. He also mention that guys get sexual urges and that he reliefs it by doing that and it is natural to touch. he also says just because people think it's nasty they automatically think it's bad and it is a sin. So is this really a sin or not. And if it is a sin can I see where it says in the bible
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Is Watching Porn a Sin if You're Not Married?
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Sin literally means missing the mark. The mark is living a life in Christ. The entire purpose for our existence is communion with God. If anyone does anything that divorces himself/herself from communion with God, then it is a sin.
Masturbation, adultery, lust, covetousness (wanting anything or anyone), fornication (sex outside of marriage) are all sins. This particular sin breaks one of the ten commandments. Romans 1:20-32 is one of many scriptures that condemn any and all sins of this nature.
Masturbation, adultery, lust, covetousness (wanting anything or anyone), fornication (sex outside of marriage) are all sins. This particular sin breaks one of the ten commandments. Romans 1:20-32 is one of many scriptures that condemn any and all sins of this nature.
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To be honest, I would seriously question your friend's salvation -- and maybe he should to.
Here's your Bible verse:
Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Your friends defense of porn is NOT coming from an indwelling Holy Spirit.
Here's your Bible verse:
Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Your friends defense of porn is NOT coming from an indwelling Holy Spirit.
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EAGonzalex,
Maybe you are jumping to conclusions? How do you know that he was looking at the man, or the woman in the video with lust? Maybe he was simply interest in the sex act, period.
Maybe you are jumping to conclusions? How do you know that he was looking at the man, or the woman in the video with lust? Maybe he was simply interest in the sex act, period.
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okay, good info. i was particularly wondering about this. I have decided to stop and thrw away all my porn starting today!
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If you are single and your object of lust is single, then it would be fornication, not adultery. Which is still wrong. And besides - a lot of those women in porn are married or have been married.
It's natural to do a lot of things that are wrong according to Scripture. That's because we have a sinful nature. As "natural" as it is to lust, it is also "natural" to hold grudges, take revenge, spite people, and lie to cover ourselves. Doesn't make them right.
Well, it's not just what people think is nasty. Jesus said it is sinful to look lustfully. That's a divine opinion. If he continues to reject it, then he's going to need to take responsibility for it.
I should also add this: Porn isn't something that you can just control. It grows like a cancer and it corrupts your mind and your soul. You can start out light, but you will eventually progress into watching stuff which is much worse than that. Your language will get more crass. Your mind will be much filthier. You have a very hard time seeing people the way God would have you see them.
Paul had to deal with similar attitudes in the church in Corinth, a city that was sleazy even by Roman standards:
"'Everything is permissible for me'but not everything is beneficial. 'Everything is permissible for me'but I will not be mastered by anything. 'Food for the stomach and the stomach for food'but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body." - 1 Corinthians 6:12-13
These Corinthians used traditional sayings in their culture to justify their sexual excesses. Paul quoted them, and rebuked them with Christian virtue. We are not to be mastered by anything. Porn will master you. It's not like having an occasional drink or eating your favorite food. This is a type of sex addiction, and those have been compared by therapists to nicotine addictions in severity. Bottom line, if he's a Christian especially, he has no business doing porn. And he needs to both completely cut off his supply and get help. But most of all, he needs to surrender this area of his life to God. If he doesn't want to quit, he won't quit.
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People think going to the bathroom is nasty, too. It is also not condemned in the Bible.
We don't live by other people's standards. We live by our own standards.
And how we judge others.
'So, how you judge others, keep that as your own standard.'
Stop me... if you have heard that before...
LOL...
I suppose, if it is not obvious: consider right and wrong for yourself. How do you judge others in X situation. Or Y situation.
etc, etc, etc
Start thinking that way, and pretty soon, you don't have any such questions anymore.
The real trick is in figuring out you actually don't have to do anything to feel really good in yourself.
Then, you have to deal with, you know, planet earth. Otherwise, we would all go live in caves.
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This is always one of the hardest subjects, both to deal with, and to define. "What is lust?" is a question that people have been asking for centuries.
Job said, "I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl." Jesus said, "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
In both cases, the adverb lustfully is used, but the bible doesn't define what that is. The strictest definition would say that we should not ever look at a female that causes feelings of attraction. The only way to do that would be to isolate ourselves from women entirely (except a wife). The other end of the spectrum would define lust a recurring obsession where you repeatedly imagine a sexual relationship with someone - anything else is fair game. I'm pretty sure neither one is what Jesus had in mind.
It's even more difficult to measure when it involves an image, photo, or video. Most would agree that watching hard core porn is wrong because it degrades women, men, and the holy act of sex. But what about artistic (non-sexual) nudity? If someone appreciates the aesthetics of a female body without a personal connection, is that lust? What about a clothed female on TV? If you have a crush on an actress on your favorite TV show, is that lust? What about a art? If you appreciate a painting with a nude female, is that lust even though it's not even a real person?
A famous quote form the US Supreme Court when trying to define pornography said, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it".
I think that is probably true of lust as well... there is no objective definition. Romans 14 tells us that it is possible for something to be a sin for one person, but not for another. He gave the examples of drinking wine, eating meat, and celebrating the sabbath on a certain day. I think alcohol is a good parallel here. For some, drinking any alcohol is dangerous (and potentially sinful). For others (including Jesus), it is a normal part of life.
So it partially depends on how your mind works, but if you are married or dating, it also depends on the perspective of your mate. Here's an example: one of my best friends was married to woman who was extremely jealous and distrustful, and would flip out if he looked at another. Ironically, she ended up cheating on him. Another friend has a deep, trusting relationship with his wife, and they are "people watchers". His wife even points out girls that he would like when they are out.
In the end, there is very little specific biblical guidance. Even the subject of masturbation is notably left out of the Bible. Nearly all biblical scholars agree that the story of Onan was about coitus interruptus in defiance of God's will. I'm sure we'd all agree that it is often an addiction that can replace intimacy in the marriage or lead to worse thoughts and behaviors. But many Christians also support it in the right context. Perhaps that's why it was left unsaid.
Ultimately, we have to trust the Holy Spirit to help us discern what is destructive and sinful in our lives when it comes to this subject. If you rely too much on someone else's definition, you could err in being either too strict or too loose with it. Stay close to God and scripture and the answer will come.
One last thing (and I may get in trouble for this
). I think that women should be careful when making black and white statements about any of these subjects. The battle that rages with men is very different than that of women. To be dismissive of the different reality of sexual urges in men would be like a man trivializing the pains of child berth. Glad to have your input - we need it! Just be cautious.
Job said, "I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl." Jesus said, "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
In both cases, the adverb lustfully is used, but the bible doesn't define what that is. The strictest definition would say that we should not ever look at a female that causes feelings of attraction. The only way to do that would be to isolate ourselves from women entirely (except a wife). The other end of the spectrum would define lust a recurring obsession where you repeatedly imagine a sexual relationship with someone - anything else is fair game. I'm pretty sure neither one is what Jesus had in mind.
It's even more difficult to measure when it involves an image, photo, or video. Most would agree that watching hard core porn is wrong because it degrades women, men, and the holy act of sex. But what about artistic (non-sexual) nudity? If someone appreciates the aesthetics of a female body without a personal connection, is that lust? What about a clothed female on TV? If you have a crush on an actress on your favorite TV show, is that lust? What about a art? If you appreciate a painting with a nude female, is that lust even though it's not even a real person?
A famous quote form the US Supreme Court when trying to define pornography said, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it".
I think that is probably true of lust as well... there is no objective definition. Romans 14 tells us that it is possible for something to be a sin for one person, but not for another. He gave the examples of drinking wine, eating meat, and celebrating the sabbath on a certain day. I think alcohol is a good parallel here. For some, drinking any alcohol is dangerous (and potentially sinful). For others (including Jesus), it is a normal part of life.
So it partially depends on how your mind works, but if you are married or dating, it also depends on the perspective of your mate. Here's an example: one of my best friends was married to woman who was extremely jealous and distrustful, and would flip out if he looked at another. Ironically, she ended up cheating on him. Another friend has a deep, trusting relationship with his wife, and they are "people watchers". His wife even points out girls that he would like when they are out.
In the end, there is very little specific biblical guidance. Even the subject of masturbation is notably left out of the Bible. Nearly all biblical scholars agree that the story of Onan was about coitus interruptus in defiance of God's will. I'm sure we'd all agree that it is often an addiction that can replace intimacy in the marriage or lead to worse thoughts and behaviors. But many Christians also support it in the right context. Perhaps that's why it was left unsaid.
Ultimately, we have to trust the Holy Spirit to help us discern what is destructive and sinful in our lives when it comes to this subject. If you rely too much on someone else's definition, you could err in being either too strict or too loose with it. Stay close to God and scripture and the answer will come.
One last thing (and I may get in trouble for this
). I think that women should be careful when making black and white statements about any of these subjects. The battle that rages with men is very different than that of women. To be dismissive of the different reality of sexual urges in men would be like a man trivializing the pains of child berth. Glad to have your input - we need it! Just be cautious.
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I think you did right by warning and trying to educate your friend. God may have meant for that to happen because He loves you, and He loves your friend. Sin, especially a sin that is committed against our own body, which is to be the temple of the Holy Spirit, seperates us from our God. God is giving those who do not accept the truth of Jesus Christ over to a reprobate mind. Those who do not accept the truth, God is sending a great delusion so that they may believe the lie. I just want to say, God bless you, and may this minister to others, as it has already. Bless.
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