To be absolutely honest, what I'm worried about is the impact that this thread will have on any emotionally vulnerable trans people who may be reading it. As you said, people kill themselves because of stuff like this.
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To be absolutely honest, what I'm worried about is the impact that this thread will have on any emotionally vulnerable trans people who may be reading it. As you said, people kill themselves because of stuff like this.@Andrea and devnet.....
Let Sky keep talking. He still hasn't realized just how helpful he is in proving my points. His attitude is a real drag on his position. He doesn't seem to recognize it yet, though.
At any rate, I really do defend his right to hold and express his opinions, even if he'd rather not hear mine. He has done me no wrong. I still cherish him as a brother. That won't change.
Plus, he will mellow with age, I'm sure of it.
I have posted several sources in other threads to support the assertion that it IS innate, as have others, and you know that. How many sources have you pointed to in support of anything you've said regarding the issue? Not a one. After my, and many others, repeated requests for your references, you still just keep repeating the same position with absolutely nothing to back you up. I will defend your right to keep your opinions. But, you're making them all up in your head without researching anything. It takes reasons to reach a conclusion. That's where the word "reasonable" comes from. Yours aren't reasonable. They SEEM to be all driven by emotion. One can only guess why.
You found one "psychiatrist" on the NARTH website that backs your position. You've been shown any number of links to the findings of mainstream professionals in the field who disagree with it. Can you say "consensus"?That's all just a complete and utter lie. You all have presented nothing that concludes anything, because there ISN'T ANYTHING.
I don't know how much clearer I can be on that, psychiatrists even tell it themselves when they get frustrated over this fantasy diagnosis.
And if anyone is driven by emotion, it is most definitely you and liberals.
Straight up. It is 90% of you all's A game, the other 10% percent is low balling proper scientific observation that wouldn't hold up to anything else to suffice as the grand master factual facty fact of Transgender™, circa 1970 something.
That's completely stupid, and utterly unreasonable. But then again, there isn't much reasonable in the liberal circle anyhow, so go figure.
A man can now be born in a woman's body.
It's BS. It was always BS, and it will always be BS.
We're discussing transGENDER not transSEXUAL.Yes, it is a lie.
The sexes are defined by the biology of procreation, not simply the superficial appearance of possessing that biology.
If I paint an orange to look like an apple, does it become an apple.....
To be absolutely honest, what I'm worried about is the impact that this thread will have on any emotionally vulnerable trans people who may be reading it. As you said, people kill themselves because of stuff like this.
That's all just a complete and utter lie. You all have presented nothing that concludes anything, because there ISN'T ANYTHING.
I don't know how much clearer I can be on that, psychiatrists even tell it themselves when they get frustrated over this fantasy diagnosis.
And if anyone is driven by emotion, it is most definitely you and liberals.
Straight up. It is 90% of you all's A game, the other 10% percent is low balling proper scientific observation that wouldn't hold up to anything else to suffice as the grand master factual facty fact of Transgender, circa 1970 something.
That's completely stupid, and utterly unreasonable. But then again, there isn't much reasonable in the liberal circle anyhow, so go figure.
A man can now be born in a woman's body.
It's BS. It was always BS, and it will always be BS.
It doesn't take many allies to alleviate the hurt caused by rejection. Often, one is sufficient. I try to make sure I am at least one.
I almost feel people have a tendency to want to dismiss any mental phenomena simply because it is not tangible (which is quite ironic coming from religious people) and offends their sensibilities with respect to sex and gender taboos.
You found one "psychiatrist" on the NARTH website that backs your position. You've been shown any number of links to the findings of mainstream professionals in the field. Can you say "consensus"?
We're discussing transGENDER not transSEXUAL.
Considering how complex the human brain and body is I honestly don't see why there's so much skepticism about it. Nature makes mistakes, yes? Nature has created people who are intersexed (i.e., hermaphrodites) yes? Why can't hermaphroditism occur at the level of the brain rather than just at the level of genitalia? I almost feel people have a tendency to want to dismiss any mental phenomena simply because it is not tangible (which is quite ironic coming from religious people) and offends their sensibilities with respect to sex and gender taboos.
We're discussing transGENDER not transSEXUAL.
Considering how complex the human brain and body is I honestly don't see why there's so much skepticism about it. Nature makes mistakes, yes? Nature has created people who are intersexed (i.e., hermaphrodites) yes? Why can't hermaphroditism occur at the level of the brain rather than just at the level of genitalia? I almost feel people have a tendency to want to dismiss any mental phenomena simply because it is not tangible (which is quite ironic coming from religious people) and offends their sensibilities with respect to sex and gender taboos.
To be absolutely honest, what I'm worried about is the impact that this thread will have on any emotionally vulnerable trans people who may be reading it. As you said, people kill themselves because of stuff like this.
Intimidated by the antics of the socially disordered and liberal society has simply caused them to speculate speculation as evidence or fact.
That's all it is. If a psychiatrist can say there is no evidence, then what makes you think it is some miraculous super truth?
It's not, it's nonsense. You all simply choose to have faith in an idea that it is real, but that's all it is. You all have nothing to go on to to tell somebody it is factual.
When people have had enough, they go and speak the truth. And that's what that psychiatrist did. He did not lose his job for it either, so apparently it wasn't like he was telling some rank lie.
There is no evidence. Just deal with the truth, and stop spreading lies.
Intimidated by the antics of the socially disordered and liberal society has simply caused them to speculate speculation as evidence or fact.
That's all it is. If a psychiatrist can say there is no evidence, then what makes you think it is some miraculous super truth?
It's not, it's nonsense. You all simply choose to have faith in an idea that it is real, but that's all it is. You all have nothing to go on to to tell somebody it is factual.
When people have had enough, they go and speak the truth. And that's what that psychiatrist did. He did not lose his job for it either, so apparently it wasn't like he was telling some rank lie.
There is no evidence. Just deal with the truth, and stop spreading lies.
To be absolutely honest, what I'm worried about is the impact that this thread will have on any emotionally vulnerable trans people who may be reading it. As you said, people kill themselves because of stuff like this.
How so?God is more believable then a woman being born in a man's body.
I'll ask transgenders the same question I ask all LGBT: where were you all just a few decades ago?
How convenient that you were all 'forced to be in secret'. Did half of transgenders kill themselves?
I'm so sorry you have to put up with this. I offer you e-hugs, although I know it won't fix things.I can personally assure you that it isn't helping
Then tell alleged transgender people to stop posting on religious sites.
Can't even take accountability for that, like they're not here to tempt the spirits. Like they think most Christians accept them as okay and will deal with them telling lies about God' natural order.
And as I said, complete and utter emotional perpetuation.
When all else fails_
It's like an infallible machine that transforms to anything that comes at it.
That's what lies usually consist of.
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