IS TIME TRAVEL A SIN?

Phil W · May 5, 2019

Tone said:
What if I've memorized the entire Bible...? And also, remember what you said when you're out playing golf...

Have you memorized the entire bible?
BTW...I don't golf.

There are a lot of better things to do than ponder time travel.
Volunteer at a food bank !

Tone · May 5, 2019

Phil W said:
Have you memorized the entire bible?
BTW...I don't golf.

There are a lot of better things to do than ponder time travel.
Volunteer at a food bank !

There are a lot of better things to do than heckle someone pondering time travel on an internet forum...

...no...I haven't memorized the entire Bible...

*You should take up golf...

Carbon · May 7, 2019

If time travel is a sin this is no problem. Feel free to time travel as many times as you like, then when you’ve had your fill simply go back to your first time and choose to not time travel. It’s like it never happened.

There see? Now God can’t complain. In fact he owes you one for cleaning up all the terrible messes you undoubtably made.

Tone · May 7, 2019

Carbon said:
If time travel is a sin this is no problem. Feel free to time travel as many times as you like, then when you’ve had your fill simply go back to your first time and choose to not time travel. It’s like it never happened.

There see? Now God can’t complain. In fact he owes you one for cleaning up all the terrible messes you undoubtably made.

Hmmm...interesting points.

Tone · May 7, 2019

Phil W said:
There are a lot of better things to do than ponder time travel.
Volunteer at a food bank !

I'm volunteering my time right here...a food (for thought) bank!

*

Phil W · May 7, 2019

Tone said:
I'm volunteering my time right here...a food (for thought) bank!

*

I pray he Lord will reward you openly now and forevermore.

FreeinChrist · May 13, 2019

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Messerve · Jan 11, 2020

Time travel on its own would just be a thing. It, however, could be sued for sin just like everything else. It could also be used for good, for that matter.

Personally I'd rather go back in time and try to remedy some of the world's problems that way.
Or meet my parents when they were my age.

SPF · Jan 13, 2020

Maria Billingsley said:
There is no time in the Kingdom of God.

That's non-sensical. Of course there is.

Maria Billingsley said:
God exists outside of time and so will we when we are resurrected.
"But you must not forget this one thing, dear friends: A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day. "

That verse simply says that the way in which God experiences time is different than the way in which we experience time. It does not at all say that God somehow exists "outside" of time.

Personally, I think only the present exists, therefore time travel would be impossible as neither the past nor the future exist.

Time is not a thing, it is simply a measurement. Our experience of time may vary, but nothing exists "outside" of time. It's not a thing to exist inside or outside of.

Maria Billingsley · Jan 13, 2020

SPF said:
That's non-sensical. Of course there is.

That verse simply says that the way in which God experiences time is different than the way in which we experience time. It does not at all say that God somehow exists "outside" of time.

Personally, I think only the present exists, therefore time travel would be impossible as neither the past nor the future exist.

Time is not a thing, it is simply a measurement. Our experience of time may vary, but nothing exists "outside" of time. It's not a thing to exist inside or outside of.

I guess we will find out in due time!

SPF · Jan 13, 2020

Maria Billingsley said:
I guess we will find out in due time!

It's also common sense. Everything that God creates is finite. All finite objects/beings have beginnings. Therefore, it is possible to "track" a finite object/beings existence and actions.

When Christ returns, He is going to redeem and establish His kingdom on Earth. You and I were created as both physical and spiritual beings, and that's how it will be when Christ returns.

Do you think you're going to move when Christ returns? Are you going to have a thought? Are you going to do anything? If so, your very movements have a beginning and an end, your thoughts have a beginning and end, all of these actions are "trackable".

Time isn't a "thing" that was ever created. It is simply a measurement of change and/or duration.

DennisTate · Jan 22, 2020

Tone said:
I have been doing a lot of discussing in various forums, where the idea of time travel has come up repeatedly. Then, just yesterday, I watched Avengers: Endgame - Wikipedia (spoiler alert), and time travel, once again, entered my consciousness.

I remember, years ago, that I proposed the idea that a lie is sinful, because it is actually the theft of someone's (whoever is being lied to) time.

Anyways, all this has brought me to wonder if the concept (perhaps reality?) of time travel, has played a role in the cosmic war between good and evil.

Thoughts?

*I mean, aren't we all time traveling into the future?

Frankly..... I think that Ezekiel 37, Revelation 20, Romans 9
Romans 10 and Romans 11 indicate that the Word - Logos who invented time..... has a much longer term plan for time than you and I can even begin to imagine.

I believe that time..... is comparable to a car or bicycle or canoe or yacht or airplane...... it is a vehicle to take souls from point A to Point B to point C and on and on and on......

To lead souls to Salvation..... and from there to even greater levels of glory than when we are first transformed from flesh and given spiritual bodies like the body that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus had after his resurrection.

Multiverse Theory, multiple Ezekiel 37 events and the unification of Calvinism with Universalism?

Bob Crowley · Jan 23, 2020

If I remember correctly after getting out my wife's hair dryer and blowing the cobwebs out between my ears, Arthur C. Clarke, the science fiction writer, commented there was no evidence for time travel. If we could travel into the past and future for example, there'd be evidence.

Curious travellers from ancient Rome would be turning up in their togas and demanding to be shown the way to the Colosseum, absolutely bored to death after watching a game of cricket; hordes of pony riding Mongols would be pillaging everything in sight in the local Walmart, and tourists from advanced civilisations would be sending letters to the editor telling us how barbaric we are.

Since there is no evidence for any of these things happening, then it stands to reason that no-one has ever found a way to travel through time, other than the standard way of sixty minutes per hour, twenty four hours a day etc.

Tone · Jan 23, 2020

Bob Crowley said:
the standard way of sixty minutes per hour, twenty four hours a day etc.

Snail way...

Hmmmm I wonder if this had something to do with the war that broke out in heaven...maybe some didn't like this set up.

GOD Shines Forth! · Jan 23, 2020

Tone said:
I have been doing a lot of discussing in various forums, where the idea of time travel has come up repeatedly. Then, just yesterday, I watched Avengers: Endgame - Wikipedia (spoiler alert), and time travel, once again, entered my consciousness.

I remember, years ago, that I proposed the idea that a lie is sinful, because it is actually the theft of someone's (whoever is being lied to) time.

Anyways, all this has brought me to wonder if the concept (perhaps reality?) of time travel, has played a role in the cosmic war between good and evil.

Thoughts?

*I mean, aren't we all time traveling into the future?

IS TIME TRAVEL A SIN?

Not if Scripture is your spacecraft.

Tone · Jan 23, 2020

GOD Shines Forth! said:
IS TIME TRAVEL A SIN?

Not if Scripture is your spacecraft.

I think you're on to something here...maybe the only approved way of cosmic time travel,in which, we need to be plugged in with every aspect of our beings: will, emotions, imaginations, etc...

Tone · Jan 23, 2020

Perhaps the Scribes of Scripture tore a "wrinkle in time", as they were inspired by the Creator:

"write (v.)
Old English writan "to score, outline, draw the figure of," later "to set down in writing" (class I strong verb; past tense wrat, past participle writen), from Proto-Germanic *writan "tear, scratch" (source also of Old Frisian writa "to write," Old Saxon writan "to tear, scratch, write," Old Norse rita "write, scratch, outline," Old High German rizan "to write, scratch, tear," German reißen "to tear, pull, tug, sketch, draw, design"), outside connections doubtful."
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"scribe (n.)
c. 1200, "professional interpreter of the Jewish Law" (late 11c. as a surname), from Church Latin scriba "teacher of Jewish law," used in Vulgate to render Greek grammateus (corresponding to Hebrew sopher "writer, scholar"), special use of Latin scriba "keeper of accounts, secretary, writer," from past participle stem of scribere "to write" (from PIE root *skribh- "to cut"). Sense "one who writes, official or public writer" in English is from late 14c."
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"scripture (n.)
early 14c., "the sacred writings of the Bible;" mid-14c., "a writing, an act of writing, written characters," from Late Latin scriptura "the writings contained in the Bible, a passage from the Bible," in classical Latin "a writing, character, inscription," from scriptus, past participle of scribere "to write" (from PIE root *skribh- "to cut")."
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Tone · Jan 23, 2020

Tone said:
Perhaps the Scribes of Scripture tore a "wrinkle in time", as they were inspired by the Creator:

I know, this doesn't make much sense...maybe the Scribes tore through whatever was necessary for time travel, while the enemy only wrinkled it...maybe, this was the big sin. Like when Moses was supposed to speak to the rock, but he struck it.

"wrinkle (v.)
early 15c. (transitive), probably from stem of Old English gewrinclod "wrinkled, crooked, winding," past participle of gewrinclian "to wind, crease," from perfective prefix ge- + -wrinclian "to wind," from Proto-Germanic *wrankjan, from a nasalized variant of *werg- "to turn," from PIE root *wer- (2) "to turn, bend." Intransitive sense from 1610s. Related: Wrinkled; wrinkling.

wrinkle (n.)

"fold or crease in the extenal body," late 14c.; in cloth or clothing from early 15c., probably from wrinkle (v.). Meaning "defect, problem" first recorded 1640s; that of "idea, device, notion" (especially a new one) is from 1817."
wrinkle | Origin and meaning of wrinkle by Online Etymology Dictionary

*I know right...

DamianWarS · Jan 25, 2020

Tone said:
I have been doing a lot of discussing in various forums, where the idea of time travel has come up repeatedly. Then, just yesterday, I watched Avengers: Endgame - Wikipedia (spoiler alert), and time travel, once again, entered my consciousness.

I remember, years ago, that I proposed the idea that a lie is sinful, because it is actually the theft of someone's (whoever is being lied to) time.

Anyways, all this has brought me to wonder if the concept (perhaps reality?) of time travel, has played a role in the cosmic war between good and evil.

Thoughts?

*I mean, aren't we all time traveling into the future?

time travel and making a rock so big that God can't lift it are both sins.

joshua 1 9 · Jan 27, 2020

Tone said:
*I mean, aren't we all time traveling into the future?

Some people say the future controls the past more then the past controls the future. We time travel all the time. I will be watching a video taken at a different moment in time, yet I still have an interaction with that person in that video.

David tells us in Psalm 139:16 that God writes the book of our life before we are even born. Every chapter and every verse. We are judged according to how much we live the life He created us to live. The angels watch over us and they keep records of what we have done in our life. Or what we have not done.

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