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Is there salvation without Mary?

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Abaxvahl said:
This, Theotokos, a Virgin Birth (virginity ante-partum and in-partu), and salvation, her being worthy of imitation in some degree, and probably something else I am missing are the bare minimums all believe concerning her. This is true.
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Some people (like Nestorius) reject the title Theotokos. This is strictly speaking permissible under the Nicene Creed, but it leads to what Fr. John Behr of Oxford, previously Dean of St. Vladimir’s Seminary, and I, regard as messy Christology.
 
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