Matt. 13: 55 Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? 56 And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?”
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Matt. 13: 55 Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? 56 And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?”If the Scriptures are consistent with them being older than Jesus, and Mary is a virgin at Jesus' birth, then it is impossible for Jesus' brethren to have come from Mary's womb. Thus, every indication they are not by the same mother. You haven't posted any Scripture that proves otherwise.
When Jesus said to baptize in those 3 names, He was putting Himself & the Holy Spirit on equal footing with God. And Yahweh called Jesus His Son at Jesus' baptism. How can His Son not be God? And Jesus warned against blaspheming the Holy Spirit, saying it'd never be forgiven. How can the Holy Spirit not be God, given that fact? And also, Jesus said He would send the Holy Spirit in His place, which also proves He is God, as how can anyone but God be in God's place?this is far short of describing the Trinity. All you've shown is 3 psrsons.
Only to those who don't wanna believe.this is far short of explaining the 2 natures of Christ.
Yes, God's ACTUAL Church did such, but the RCC isn't that any more, if it ever was. It went south in the 300s AD.I suspect you believe what the Church formulated over the first 4 centuries but you cany bring yourself to admit it. It's ok, WE all know.
No; she's in paradise, same as are all other souls of the righteous dead. She died, same as everyone else of that time eventually did.Those in Heaven are alive, not dead. Mary was assumed into Heaven.
Those other "sources" are phony as a $3 bill, invented by quacks & charlatans, same as those who were around before Jesus came, same as a murderer who said he killed on command of a "voice".I can, but you won't accept those truths because you follow a belief that is not in the Bible--sola scriptura.
Jesus did speak of His brothers: Matthew 23:8: But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. RSVCE
This passage only confirms that Jesus' mother is Mary. It does not call Mary the mother of His brethren but rather singles Him out as the son of Mary. What did you think this passage would prove?Matt. 13: 55 Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? 56 And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?”
'Tis common sense that they were referring to His siblings, as they were wondering why Jesus was so much superior to them & the rest of His family. They wouldn't otherwise be comparing Jesus to them.This passage only confirms that Jesus' mother is Mary. It does not call Mary the mother of His brethren but rather singles Him out as the son of Mary. What did you think this passage would prove?
It still doesn't make them Mary's children. Any children Joseph had before would be called Jesus' brothers and sisters.'Tis common sense that they were referring to His siblings, as they were wondering why Jesus was so much superior to them & the rest of His family. They wouldn't otherwise be comparing Jesus to them.
Absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL PROOF Joseph had another wife!It still doesn't make them Mary's children. Any children Joseph had before would be called Jesus' brothers and sisters.
Show me a definite Scripture in the New Testament that states that.Those in Heaven are alive, not dead. Mary was assumed into Heaven.
There you go. Same for Mary, there are numerous references in the Bible about brothers or brethren that are siblings and not of the same parents. Thus there is NO SCRIPTURAL PROOF that Mary had other children. None. Insisting that the word must comply with your modern understanding of the word for Mary but not for others in the Bible is mere speculation.Absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL PROOF Joseph had another wife!
Absolutely none that he didn't, but the attitude of Jesus' brothers towards Him is consistent with Jesus NOT being the eldest, so Scripture does imply that Joseph was a widower.Absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL PROOF Joseph had another wife!
Show me a definite Scripture in the New Testament that states that.
Hello! I'm fine with that interpretation. But I've heard a simpler one that I also consider a possibility.Heb 12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us.
RSVCE
The witnesses are the saints.
Not so. The witnesses are the angels who observe the grace of God toward mankind with amazement and rejoice when each sinner repents, believes the Gospel and is saved.Heb 12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us.
RSVCE
The witnesses are the saints.
They are still in the body of Christ which is one body.All those who have died in Christ are in Paradise, totally separated from this world, and who have no idea of what has been happening since they died and their spirits went to Paradise.
That's a bit of a stretch of the Scripture.They are still in the body of Christ which is one body.
If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.
1 Cor 12:26
It is completely consistent with the experience of the Orthodox Church over two millenia.That's a bit of a stretch of the Scripture.
The experience of a church denomination is not Scripture.It is completely consistent with the experience of the Orthodox Church over two millenia.
And?The experience of a church denomination is not Scripture.
There are no Scriptures that show that Mary or the Saints have any influence on us, or that we should pay any regard to them at all. They are mere human beings who are dead in the grave and their spirits are totally separate from our material world.And?
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