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Is there Objective Morality?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kylie" data-source="post: 76760220" data-attributes="member: 343110"><p>You miss my point.</p><p></p><p>And there would be a lot more evidence than just a few campsites in the desert.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please feel free to start a thread and send me a link.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But reality does not require that we make meaning out of things, and reality does not exist in order to give us something to make meaning out of.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You keep talking about what we perceive and what we experience as two completely different things.</p><p></p><p>Could you tell me something I can perceive without having any experience of it, and/or something I can experience without having any perception of it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you conclude that science will NEVER be able to explain it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet you seem to be presenting it as something which can reveal the hidden world, and other stuff like that.</p><p></p><p> Not sure what you mean by instincts. I think its more about biological inputs and outputs. You can't change how your body works only nature or some sort of intervention beyond nature can do that. People may be born with variations to the normal functioning but there is always an objective reason for that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I thought you said that our perception of colour was objectively the same. Now you present a source which highlights how different people can look at the same thing and see different colours. Your position does not seem to be a stable one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is great. The person who claims that morality is objective is now saying that objective reality doesn't exist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kylie, post: 76760220, member: 343110"] You miss my point. And there would be a lot more evidence than just a few campsites in the desert. Please feel free to start a thread and send me a link. But reality does not require that we make meaning out of things, and reality does not exist in order to give us something to make meaning out of. You keep talking about what we perceive and what we experience as two completely different things. Could you tell me something I can perceive without having any experience of it, and/or something I can experience without having any perception of it? So you conclude that science will NEVER be able to explain it? Yet you seem to be presenting it as something which can reveal the hidden world, and other stuff like that. Not sure what you mean by instincts. I think its more about biological inputs and outputs. You can't change how your body works only nature or some sort of intervention beyond nature can do that. People may be born with variations to the normal functioning but there is always an objective reason for that. I thought you said that our perception of colour was objectively the same. Now you present a source which highlights how different people can look at the same thing and see different colours. Your position does not seem to be a stable one. This is great. The person who claims that morality is objective is now saying that objective reality doesn't exist. [/QUOTE]
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