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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 76737600" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>It could be a number of things. Jesus may have still been sweating when he came back to the disciples. One or more of the disciples did not fall asleep in an instant and heard some of the Jesus's words. The story only says that when Jesus came back the disciples were asleep so they may have taken time to nod off.</p><p></p><p> When Nichodemus went to talk with Christ that night he was more curious. He had heard the stories and even witnessed miraculous acts. He wanted to find out what was happening. People were calling Jesus the Messiah and that was a big claim.</p><p></p><p>But after Nichodemus did talk to Jesus he came to the same conclusion that Christ must be the Messiah and from then he was against putting Jesus on trial and was arguing with the other Pharisees. As he was the top Pharisee he had respect from the others so for him to acknowledge Christ was a big thing. But he was convinced it was true.</p><p></p><p>Another possibility is that some Disciples were listening to what they were talking about outside the window or somewhere close by.</p><p></p><p>Anyway I didn't want to derail the thread talking about the truth or Christs claims. Whats relevant to the thread is that we are talking about the truth of peoples testimony. How do we know to trust that testimony or claim as true.</p><p></p><p>This happens a lot in our life where we have to sense what is true as either there isn't enough time to do all the investigations or purely measuring what is true by empirical measures cannot convince someone completely. </p><p></p><p>There are other influences on how we can know something is true. Belief in someone or something is not completely blind. We are constantly processing and assessing whats happening. We don't even understand this process as there are unconscious processes involved. </p><p></p><p>But the point is we can measure the truth in different ways. Not just empirically but through our experience and intuition. We are a multi-dimensional being so we should not restrict ways of knowing what is true or real to the science method.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 76737600, member: 342064"] It could be a number of things. Jesus may have still been sweating when he came back to the disciples. One or more of the disciples did not fall asleep in an instant and heard some of the Jesus's words. The story only says that when Jesus came back the disciples were asleep so they may have taken time to nod off. When Nichodemus went to talk with Christ that night he was more curious. He had heard the stories and even witnessed miraculous acts. He wanted to find out what was happening. People were calling Jesus the Messiah and that was a big claim. But after Nichodemus did talk to Jesus he came to the same conclusion that Christ must be the Messiah and from then he was against putting Jesus on trial and was arguing with the other Pharisees. As he was the top Pharisee he had respect from the others so for him to acknowledge Christ was a big thing. But he was convinced it was true. Another possibility is that some Disciples were listening to what they were talking about outside the window or somewhere close by. Anyway I didn't want to derail the thread talking about the truth or Christs claims. Whats relevant to the thread is that we are talking about the truth of peoples testimony. How do we know to trust that testimony or claim as true. This happens a lot in our life where we have to sense what is true as either there isn't enough time to do all the investigations or purely measuring what is true by empirical measures cannot convince someone completely. There are other influences on how we can know something is true. Belief in someone or something is not completely blind. We are constantly processing and assessing whats happening. We don't even understand this process as there are unconscious processes involved. But the point is we can measure the truth in different ways. Not just empirically but through our experience and intuition. We are a multi-dimensional being so we should not restrict ways of knowing what is true or real to the science method. [/QUOTE]
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