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Is there Objective Morality?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bradskii" data-source="post: 76299891" data-attributes="member: 412388"><p>Exactly right. I think a few people have been trying to get that across.</p><p></p><p>There are two reasons why we might call something good. The first, which I've attempted to explain in a few posts is 'that which works'. So stealing is wrong because if everyone stole than then society falls apart. Or rather, it couldn't have got started in the first place. So we have called stealing wrong.</p><p></p><p>The second is a result of our empathy. So we can put ourselves in someone else's position and think 'I wouldn't want that to happen to <em>me - </em>it would be wrong as far as I'm concerned, so the fact that it's happening to <em>her</em> must also be wrong'. And 99% of the time we'd be right. But the fact that we agree obviously doesn't make it objective.</p><p></p><p>Just imagine a scenario where you see someone in a situation that you would consider bad. And you attempt to help, but she says she's fine. The situation she is in, as far as she is concerned, is what she wants (it really doesn't matter what the situation is). So is what she is experiencing good or bad? In your opinion it's bad. In her's it's good.</p><p></p><p>Who decides? You? I'd suggest not. You'd need to find out what she feels about it. If it's a negative experience for her, it's bad. If it's a positive experience, it's good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bradskii, post: 76299891, member: 412388"] Exactly right. I think a few people have been trying to get that across. There are two reasons why we might call something good. The first, which I've attempted to explain in a few posts is 'that which works'. So stealing is wrong because if everyone stole than then society falls apart. Or rather, it couldn't have got started in the first place. So we have called stealing wrong. The second is a result of our empathy. So we can put ourselves in someone else's position and think 'I wouldn't want that to happen to [I]me - [/I]it would be wrong as far as I'm concerned, so the fact that it's happening to [I]her[/I] must also be wrong'. And 99% of the time we'd be right. But the fact that we agree obviously doesn't make it objective. Just imagine a scenario where you see someone in a situation that you would consider bad. And you attempt to help, but she says she's fine. The situation she is in, as far as she is concerned, is what she wants (it really doesn't matter what the situation is). So is what she is experiencing good or bad? In your opinion it's bad. In her's it's good. Who decides? You? I'd suggest not. You'd need to find out what she feels about it. If it's a negative experience for her, it's bad. If it's a positive experience, it's good. [/QUOTE]
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