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Is there Objective Morality?
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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 76284505" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>It wouldn’t be a dichotomy if we could show that despite those people claiming that they are happy to have abortions it is still wrong. Thats why I say its not just about lived morality but other factors that show its not morally good.</p><p></p><p>Basically the reason why people think abortion is wrong is because it takes a life. So if we can show that abortion takes a life then it doesn’t matter how happy people are about abortion. That supports the lived morality. Its like someone saying they are happy to ignore the "Truth"as a moral value when seeking the truth.</p><p></p><p>It won't matter how happy people claim they are if it can be shown that the moral value of the 'truth' is needed to find the truth then in that lived moral experience the "truth" has necessary value regardless of people subjective feeling of being happy to live without "Truth".</p><p></p><p>So let’s say abortion is taking a life then it would be on par with people killing babies in prams on the street and being happy about it. Do you think that is counter intuitive? If anyone seen a baby being killed on the street would they just think “ok those people think killing babies makes them happy so I will just walk on by and not do anything”. Do you honestly think that would be the case.</p><p></p><p>Thats why intuition is an important part of understanding what is real or not. We are justified to believe that if something is lived on a daily basis like its real and true then we can safely say it is real and true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 76284505, member: 342064"] It wouldn’t be a dichotomy if we could show that despite those people claiming that they are happy to have abortions it is still wrong. Thats why I say its not just about lived morality but other factors that show its not morally good. Basically the reason why people think abortion is wrong is because it takes a life. So if we can show that abortion takes a life then it doesn’t matter how happy people are about abortion. That supports the lived morality. Its like someone saying they are happy to ignore the "Truth"as a moral value when seeking the truth. It won't matter how happy people claim they are if it can be shown that the moral value of the 'truth' is needed to find the truth then in that lived moral experience the "truth" has necessary value regardless of people subjective feeling of being happy to live without "Truth". So let’s say abortion is taking a life then it would be on par with people killing babies in prams on the street and being happy about it. Do you think that is counter intuitive? If anyone seen a baby being killed on the street would they just think “ok those people think killing babies makes them happy so I will just walk on by and not do anything”. Do you honestly think that would be the case. Thats why intuition is an important part of understanding what is real or not. We are justified to believe that if something is lived on a daily basis like its real and true then we can safely say it is real and true. [/QUOTE]
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