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Is there Objective Morality?
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<blockquote data-quote="o_mlly" data-source="post: 76283004" data-attributes="member: 434838"><p>Begging the question does not reconcile the problem.</p><p></p><p>Here's the problem:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Unanimous agreement is the appropriate condition of the human mind with regard to anything that is a matter of truth rather than a matter of taste.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In matters of taste we do not expect human beings to overcome their conflicting preferences, nor do we think they should try to do so. <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In contrast, the affirmation of opinions or beliefs as true and the rejection of their opposites as false involve judgments that are determined<em> intrinsically by the substance of the matters</em> being considered and by reference to the probative force of the relevant evidence and the cogency of the applicable reasoning. (See Post #625.)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In matters of truth, objective considerations (evidence) play the major role.<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Differences in matters of taste do not yield to reason or to argument. Differences in matters of truth must do so.<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The sphere of truth is transcultural. Where at a given time it fails to be transcultural, it can become so in the future.</li> </ul><p>Do you claim that the substance involved in judging the morality of "rape" is identical to the substance involved in judging a preference for "chocolate ice cream"? If so then one must conclude that you have grossly misjudged the substance of these matters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="o_mlly, post: 76283004, member: 434838"] Begging the question does not reconcile the problem. Here's the problem: [LIST] [*]Unanimous agreement is the appropriate condition of the human mind with regard to anything that is a matter of truth rather than a matter of taste. [*]In matters of taste we do not expect human beings to overcome their conflicting preferences, nor do we think they should try to do so. [*]In contrast, the affirmation of opinions or beliefs as true and the rejection of their opposites as false involve judgments that are determined[I] intrinsically by the substance of the matters[/I] being considered and by reference to the probative force of the relevant evidence and the cogency of the applicable reasoning. (See Post #625.) [*]In matters of truth, objective considerations (evidence) play the major role. [*]Differences in matters of taste do not yield to reason or to argument. Differences in matters of truth must do so. [*]The sphere of truth is transcultural. Where at a given time it fails to be transcultural, it can become so in the future. [/LIST] Do you claim that the substance involved in judging the morality of "rape" is identical to the substance involved in judging a preference for "chocolate ice cream"? If so then one must conclude that you have grossly misjudged the substance of these matters. [/QUOTE]
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