Is there good terrorism and bad terrorism?

Stinker · Feb 1, 2006

If Patriotic terrorists gained the upper hand in the U.S. and issued only these demands, would you panic or breathe a sigh of relief?

Economy-
a. Restore the purchasing power of the dollar to the strength of the early 1960s.
b. Return all manufacturing to within the continental U.S.
c. End all corporate 'outsourcing' to any foreign Government.

Healthcare-
a. Nationalize all healthcare immediately.
b. Appoint special courts to taylor each individual lawsuit.
c. Immediatly halt profiteering by the Pharmaceutical industry and nationalize it as well as the rest of the Healthcare industry.

Government-
a. Review and reverse all Supreme Court decisions that are not in accordance with the original intent of the framers of the Constitution & Declaration of Independence and the general morality of the New Testament.
b. Restrict Presidential authority in major military deployment.
c. Outlaw all gifts of any kind and money, to any politician and or political candidate of local, State, and Federal, office.
d. Allot a goverment lump sum allowance to politicians and political candidates according to the office held or aspired to, as the only means to campaign.

HumbleMan · Feb 1, 2006

If we were to democratically elect a congress and president that would do all this, sure, sounds like a good plan (except nationalizing health care- way too expensive . It'd be easier to regulate insurance and drug companies)

If it were to come about by violence and/or death, then no, evil does not beget good, no matter what the end is.

Ave Maria · Feb 1, 2006

All terrorism is bad.

Catechism of the Catholic Church said:
2297 Kidnapping and hostage taking bring on a reign of terror; by means of threats they subject their victims to intolerable pressures. They are morally wrong. Terrorism threatens, wounds, and kills indiscriminately; it is gravely against justice and charity. Torture which uses physical or moral violence to extract confessions, punish the guilty, frighten opponents, or satisfy hatred is contrary to respect for the person and for human dignity. Except when performed for strictly therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations, and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law.

Emphasis mine.

TheReasoner · Feb 3, 2006

What is a terrorist?
Yes, there are good terrorists, depending entirely on the definition thereof.

I would consider a "terrorist" good if he;
Fought an oppressive government
Did not attack civilians
Did not kill civilians intentionally
Attacked infrastructure or armed forces
No suicide attacks

Guess that does not make him a terrorist though
If ANYONE gets to power using threats and terrorism (violence) as a means to enforce their policies, they must be rebelled against. Not necessarily by violent means, but they must not be allowed to rule freely.

RomanPrincess · Feb 5, 2006

all terrorism is bad ...........terrorism comes from satan.

Raistlinorr · Feb 5, 2006

It depends on which side of the fence you are viewing it from.

The founding fathers of the US were terrorists in their own way, even Homeland Security and other anti government agancies will say they were terrorists.

Are you happy they did what they did?

To those that see the side of terrorists and where they come from it is not wrong or bad. Every one has their own just cause on things.
To some we (the US) are terrorists for still being in Iraq or for going there in the first place.

God bless!
Raist

Just Me Garry · Feb 18, 2006

Well if one is not supporting the Bushwacked agenda, I guess they must be terroist.

HeartFullaLove · Feb 18, 2006

Stinker said:
If Patriotic terrorists gained the upper hand in the U.S. and issued only these demands, would you panic or breathe a sigh of relief?

Economy-
a. Restore the purchasing power of the dollar to the strength of the early 1960s.
b. Return all manufacturing to within the continental U.S.
c. End all corporate 'outsourcing' to any foreign Government.

Healthcare-
a. Nationalize all healthcare immediately.
b. Appoint special courts to taylor each individual lawsuit.
c. Immediatly halt profiteering by the Pharmaceutical industry and nationalize it as well as the rest of the Healthcare industry.

Government-
a. Review and reverse all Supreme Court decisions that are not in accordance with the original intent of the framers of the Constitution & Declaration of Independence and the general morality of the New Testament.
b. Restrict Presidential authority in major military deployment.
c. Outlaw all gifts of any kind and money, to any politician and or political candidate of local, State, and Federal, office.
d. Allot a goverment lump sum allowance to politicians and political candidates according to the office held or aspired to, as the only means to campaign.

Well, with the exception of "a" under government, you simply have Left-wing terrorists. If "a" under government was ever enforced, it would prohibit ALL of the others you listed.

HeartFullaLove · Feb 18, 2006

faith guardian said:
What is a terrorist?
Yes, there are good terrorists, depending entirely on the definition thereof.

I would consider a "terrorist" good if he;
Fought an oppressive government
Did not attack civilians
Did not kill civilians intentionally
Attacked infrastructure or armed forces
No suicide attacks

Guess that does not make him a terrorist though
If ANYONE gets to power using threats and terrorism (violence) as a means to enforce their policies, they must be rebelled against. Not necessarily by violent means, but they must not be allowed to rule freely.

I would think you were right about such being "good," though I would exclude your listing of suicide attacks (many an insurgent, partisan action has been a suicide mission). The reason being is that the "terror" is against the opressive government and their apparatchiks, not the citizens. Most definitions of "terrorist" include terrorizing the populace, but yours would not.

HeartFullaLove · Feb 18, 2006

Good terrorism:

[FONT=&quot]When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]-- Proverbs 21:15[/FONT]

Jipsah · Feb 18, 2006

Stinker said:
If Patriotic terrorists gained the upper hand in the U.S. and issued only these demands, would you panic or breathe a sigh of relief?

If they're terrorists, what difference does it make if they're "patriotic" or not? All despots claim to be "patriotic" and doing whatever it is they're doing "for the public good".

Jipsah · Feb 18, 2006

Raistlinorr said:
It depends on which side of the fence you are viewing it from.

No, it doesn't.

The founding fathers of the US were terrorists in their own way

Blowing up taverns filled with civilians, taking children hostage, murdering those who opposed them? I must have missed that stuff.

even Homeland Security and other anti government agancies will say they were terrorists.

Huh?

To those that see the side of terrorists and where they come from it is not wrong or bad.

So the Chechen terrorists who murdered those little children were just playing politics by other means, no hard feelings, right? Sorry, hoss, I aint buying it.

Anthem · Feb 19, 2006

RomanPrincess said:
all terrorism is bad ...........terrorism comes from satan.

Geroge Washington was a terrorist.

i think your statement is too broad.

Anthem · Feb 19, 2006

Jipsah said:
No, it doesn't.

Blowing up taverns filled with civilians, taking children hostage, murdering those who opposed them? I must have missed that stuff.

Huh?

So the Chechen terrorists who murdered those little children were just playing politics by other means, no hard feelings, right? Sorry, hoss, I aint buying it.

no one's saying that.

We're saying that terrorism is sooooo loosely defined.

The boston tea party was clearly an act of terrorism.

no one's rationalizing modern terrorism, but in the past, terrorism has been met with a great deal of success.

HeartFullaLove · Feb 19, 2006

Anthem said:
Geroge Washington was a terrorist.

i think your statement is too broad.

Please describe and document Washington's terrorist actions.

Anthem · Feb 19, 2006

HeartFullaLove said:
Please describe and document Washington's terrorist actions.

would you agree if i was the head of an organization, and more so commissioned to lead an army, who's sole purpose was to rise up and overthrow the Government, that i'd be a terrorist?

if you agree with this, the Continental Congress was the terrorist group and Washington lead their army....

encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761569964_4/American_Revolution.html

add a www. because it doesn't let me post links yet...

HeartFullaLove · Feb 19, 2006

Anthem said:
would you agree if i was the head of an organization, and more so commissioned to lead an army, who's sole purpose was to rise up and overthrow the Government, that i'd be a terrorist?

if you agree with this, the Continental Congress was the terrorist group and Washington lead their army....

encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761569964_4/American_Revolution.html

add a www. because it doesn't let me post links yet...

No, I wouldn't agree. You might be a rebel or a revolutionary, but not necessarily a terrorist. Especially if you led an ARMY as opposed to sending out civilians and your targets were intentioally other military. A rebellion or uprising is not a terrorism when it is conducted against the GOVERNMENT.

Jipsah · Feb 19, 2006

Anthem said:
Geroge Washington was a terrorist.

You're not a History major, I take it.

Jipsah · Feb 19, 2006

Anthem said:
The boston tea party was clearly an act of terrorism.

Really? Who was terrorized, then? Tea drinkers? The tax collectors? Longshoremen?

Jipsah · Feb 19, 2006

Anthem said:
would you agree if i was the head of an organization, and more so commissioned to lead an army, who's sole purpose was to rise up and overthrow the Government, that i'd be a terrorist?

No.

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