Is There a Government in Heaven?

newton3005 said:

How does God rule? Do God and Christ rule together by themselves?

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newton3005 said:

How does God rule? Do God and Christ rule together by themselves?

The Bible strongly suggests there is a government in Heaven as we know a government to be in structure...various individuals who have been delegated various tasks in accordance with the structure of government. 1 Peter 2:13-15 says, “Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people.” This are not the earthly emperor or governors as referred to in Romans 13:1, but, rather, the angels whom God has delegated authority to. Daniel 7:27 says, “And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; their kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.”

And as for Jesus, Isaiah 9:6 says “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the GOVERNMENT shall be upon his shoulder...” Jesus himself says in Matthew 18:10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.”

So, God is not a one-man show, nor is the holy trinity a trio by itself. There are angles doing their part in the function of God’s Kingdom.

Can God and Jesus do it all by themselves? God can do anything, but He has given the angels a part in the rule of His Kingdom. Did God do this to establish order in His Kingdom, making the angels feel that they belong lest they rebel like Satan did? That is not to say that Satan wouldn’t have rebelled anyway.

But what if there was disorder in God’s Kingdom? Would there be an effect on God and Jesus’ appeal to us of the eternal life in God’s Kingdom that awaits? Would God be concerned that as far as disorder goes, we would see no difference than the disorder we presently experience on earth?

What kind of government, then, is there in God’s Kingdom? I tell you it is a monarchy in the sense that it is God’s Word that others, including Lord Jesus, abide by. In a sense, democracy is an earthly thing, with the people deciding who the earthy rulers should be. Many of those people do so in their love of God, with the hope that a government that rules is one that is mentioned in Romans 13:1. But the Bible tells us that whatever forms of earthly government exist, they are temporary as eventually the Lord will sweep into Heaven those whom he judges to have loved him and eachother, and others whom he may bring into Heaven by His Grace alone.

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newton3005 said:

But what if there was disorder in God’s Kingdom? Would there be an effect on God and Jesus’ appeal to us of the eternal life in God’s Kingdom that awaits? Would God be concerned that as far as disorder goes, we would see no difference than the disorder we presently experience on earth?

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newton3005 said:

How does God rule? Do God and Christ rule together by themselves?

The Bible strongly suggests there is a government in Heaven as we know a government to be in structure...various individuals who have been delegated various tasks in accordance with the structure of government. 1 Peter 2:13-15 says, “Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people.” This are not the earthly emperor or governors as referred to in Romans 13:1, but, rather, the angels whom God has delegated authority to. Daniel 7:27 says, “And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; their kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.”

And as for Jesus, Isaiah 9:6 says “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the GOVERNMENT shall be upon his shoulder...” Jesus himself says in Matthew 18:10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.”

So, God is not a one-man show, nor is the holy trinity a trio by itself. There are angles doing their part in the function of God’s Kingdom.

Can God and Jesus do it all by themselves? God can do anything, but He has given the angels a part in the rule of His Kingdom. Did God do this to establish order in His Kingdom, making the angels feel that they belong lest they rebel like Satan did? That is not to say that Satan wouldn’t have rebelled anyway.

But what if there was disorder in God’s Kingdom? Would there be an effect on God and Jesus’ appeal to us of the eternal life in God’s Kingdom that awaits? Would God be concerned that as far as disorder goes, we would see no difference than the disorder we presently experience on earth?

What kind of government, then, is there in God’s Kingdom? I tell you it is a monarchy in the sense that it is God’s Word that others, including Lord Jesus, abide by. In a sense, democracy is an earthly thing, with the people deciding who the earthy rulers should be. Many of those people do so in their love of God, with the hope that a government that rules is one that is mentioned in Romans 13:1. But the Bible tells us that whatever forms of earthly government exist, they are temporary as eventually the Lord will sweep into Heaven those whom he judges to have loved him and eachother, and others whom he may bring into Heaven by His Grace alone.

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newton3005 said:

How does God rule? Do God and Christ rule together by themselves?

The Bible strongly suggests there is a government in Heaven as we know a government to be in structure...various individuals who have been delegated various tasks in accordance with the structure of government. 1 Peter 2:13-15 says, “Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people.” This are not the earthly emperor or governors as referred to in Romans 13:1, but, rather, the angels whom God has delegated authority to. Daniel 7:27 says, “And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; their kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.”

And as for Jesus, Isaiah 9:6 says “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the GOVERNMENT shall be upon his shoulder...” Jesus himself says in Matthew 18:10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.”

So, God is not a one-man show, nor is the holy trinity a trio by itself. There are angels doing their part in the function of God’s Kingdom.

Can God and Jesus do it all by themselves? God can do anything, but He has given the angels a part in the rule of His Kingdom. Did God do this to establish order in His Kingdom, making the angels feel that they belong lest they rebel like Satan did? That is not to say that Satan wouldn’t have rebelled anyway.

But what if there was disorder in God’s Kingdom? Would there be an effect on God and Jesus’ appeal to us of the eternal life in God’s Kingdom that awaits? Would God be concerned that as far as disorder goes, we would see no difference than the disorder we presently experience on earth?

What kind of government, then, is there in God’s Kingdom? I tell you it is a monarchy in the sense that it is God’s Word that others, including Lord Jesus, abide by. In a sense, democracy is an earthly thing, with the people deciding who the earthy rulers should be. Many of those people do so in their love of God, with the hope that a government that rules is one that is mentioned in Romans 13:1. But the Bible tells us that whatever forms of earthly government exist, they are temporary as eventually the Lord will sweep into Heaven those whom he judges to have loved him and eachother, and others whom he may bring into Heaven by His Grace alone.

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newton3005 said:

This comes from Jesus' Parable of the Minas, and has to do with authority on earth.

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newton3005 said:

Here is the Parable in Luke 19:12-27.

12 He said therefore, “A nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and then return. 13 Calling ten of his servants, he gave them ten minas, and said to them, ‘Engage in business until I come.’ 14 But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’ 15 When he returned, having received the kingdom, he ordered these servants to whom he had given the money to be called to him, that he might know what they had gained by doing business. 16 The first came before him, saying, ‘Lord, your mina has made ten minas more.’ 17 And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant! Because you have been faithful in a very little, YOU SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY OVER TEN CITIES' 18 And the second came, saying, ‘Lord, your mina has made five minas.’ 19 And he said to him, ‘AND YOU ARE TO BE OVER FIVE CITIES.’ 20 Then another came, saying, ‘Lord, here is your mina, which I kept laid away in a handkerchief; 21 for I was afraid of you, because you are a severe man. You take what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.’ 22 He said to him, ‘I will condemn you with your own words, you wicked servant! You knew that I was a severe man, taking what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then did you not put my money in the bank, and at my coming I might have collected it with interest?’ 24 And he said to those who stood by, ‘Take the mina from him, and give it to the one who has the ten minas.’ 25 And they said to him, ‘Lord, he has ten minas!’ 26 ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 27 But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

---What do you think?

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