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So...the kingdom of Assyria has yet to be destroyed?
The things that occurred were not necessarily spiritual but they were written in figurative language. The prophecy in Daniel 9 doesn't need to be spiritualized. It was the prophecy of Jesus' arrival and establishment of his kingdom. It was a spiritual kingdom to be sure, but he did come, he did get "cut off" and the kingdom came. A kingdom that will never be destroyed. And it came in exactly the time frame that was allotted for it.
And that was the point of David's writing. God is eternal. Time is of no consequence to him. But when he talks to men, he lays out time periods of the events he's foretelling because we are men and time matters to us. Besides which, if prophecies with time attached to them do not take place in the time he speaks, then he can't be trusted. So it is of the utmost importance that we accept his stated times.
As in,
"This generation shall not pass until all these things take place."
"Some of you standing here will not taste death until all these things come to pass."
"70 weeks are determined for your people and your city"
"Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years."
Not one of those could or should be interpreted with this cipher of 1 day = 1000 years or the other way around. It doesn't work with the fulfilled prophecy where time periods are given, and thus for prophecy that is alleged to yet be unfulfilled it would be folly to attempt to interpret the time passages except as they are given.
Jesus is not returning to rule on an earthly throne.
"My kingdom is not of this world."
If it wasn't of this world when he spoke those words, then it can never be. That word he used there is a possessive pronoun. It's HIS kingdom. And his kingdom will never be destroyed and it will never end. If it ever were to be on earth, then it wouldn't be a heavenly kingdom.
The people who have pushed this earthly kingdom stuff have literally interpreted Revelation and in so doing have rejected his words about this and John's statement that the vision was "signified by His angel" and which must "shortly come to pass." Same thing that people do with Daniel 9 by inventing a gap that is never mentioned in the text. 70 weeks were determined, 70 weeks passed. A rejection of the time passage. Arguing with God and his words.
Just a few points here...
Of course it wasn't of "this world' that Jesus spoke, because "this world" and this universe will be destroyed, and a new heaven and new Earth will be created by God, so that nothing sinful remains.
Begin with 1967, not 1948. 1967 Jerusalem came back into the hands of the Jews. The numbers will line up then.If the tribulation ends in the 2037 to 2040 time-frame, the generation that was born in 1948 when Israel became a nation will be approximately 89 to 92 years old when Jesus returns. And its possible the number 89, 90, 91 or 92 that's mentioned in a story may be revealing how old this generation of 1948 will be at the end of the tribulation.
If the tribulation ends in the 2037 to 2040 time-frame, the generation that was born in 1948 when Israel became a nation will be approximately 89 to 92 years old when Jesus returns. And its possible the number 89, 90, 91 or 92 that's mentioned in a story may be revealing how old this generation of 1948 will be at the end of the tribulation.
His feet touch the earth when He returns at the end of the tribulation period. Before the trib we are caught up in the air to meet Him there. Pre trib He comes for us, post trib He returns with us.he isn't going to touch earth when he returns, we're going to meet him.
Of course it has. The historical record proves it.So...the kingdom of Assyria has yet to be destroyed?
Begin with 1967, not 1948. 1967 Jerusalem came back into the hands of the Jews. The numbers will line up then.
Of course it has.
The historical record proves it.
The prophesies about Jesus first Advent were literally fulfilled. Why not those about His Return. Acts 1:11, Revelation 19:11-21
Re the 70 'weeks', that is 490 years of Daniel 9.
Jesus was 'cut off' after the 69th week. We await the fulfilment of the final 7 years, as is vividly described in Revelation.
If you deny this, you deny the Bible, to your discredit.
His feet touch the earth when He returns at the end of the tribulation period. Before the trib we are caught up in the air to meet Him there. Pre trib He comes for us, post trib He returns with us.
If you are referring to Revelation 1, things which must shortly come to pass is that John was about to be shown what the future held at the time Jesus would be revealed to the world - in great power and glory.So much for Jesus telling John "things which must shortly come to pass."
Jesus IS the rebuilt temple. Even if "Israel" were to build a temple, it would have no significance. It will always be a cheap imitation, of no use to anyone who follows Christ.
Lots of people have tried to predict the end of the world. They been embarrassed, every time.
Check your facts. Not one person ever has been wrong based on 1967, and a generation being 70 years or by strength 80 years, Psalms 90.Lots of people have tried to predict the end of the world. They been embarrassed, every time.
Of course it has. The historical record proves it.
Prophesies like Isaiah 30:26a are a clear statement of a factual event, still to happen.
If you are referring to Revelation 1, things which must shortly come to pass is that John was about to be shown"
Check your facts. Not one person ever has been wrong based on 1967, and a generation being 70 years or by strength 80 years, Psalms 90.
The revelation which God the Father gave Jesus was not the things that John was about to be shown. It was not that Jesus had been informed of those things and was passing them on to John."The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John,"
The revelation was about "things which must shortly take place." What must take place shortly? The events revealed to John. Later we'll read that there are even things past in the revelation.
It will not be so funny, when you go into that great tribulation for being a scoffer. You need to repent.That is funny. They were wrong based on 1948, then changed that to 1967, and I am supposed to be impressed with their accuracy. You ought to read in the Old Testament what God thought about false prophets. Reminds one of Russel. How many people lost their homes because of that man's rejection of God's time passages? Thousands upon thousands.
This is when the tribulation ends.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
From what I have read the "generation" that will not pass before all these things take place... is the generation that sees Israel reborn.... Which happened in 1948...The reason most people don't recognize the historical things that have taken place which were prophecied in Revelation is because they interpret it literally. If we're to take the prophecy literally, then it's true that all the dead martyrs are underneath an altar somewhere in heaven and they're constantly crying out for vengeance, Jesus was literally holding the stars in his hand and Polycarp was a lampstand.
Be that as it may, it is not relevant to the scripture being discussed. Revelation is not a continuation of Jesus prophecy in Luke 18 and Matt. 24. Jesus said that the great tribulation would occur before that generation passed. You can accept what he said or inappropriately try to connect that prophecy with Revelation which itself says "must shortly take place."
Likely, most everything, except the judgement day, has already occurred. If you don't trust the time passages in scripture, then every time statement by God is suspect including the 400 years or so that he told Abraham would pass before his people were brought of Egypt.
If it is mostly symbols, how can it not be symbolic? Have you seen any green horses or red dragons lately?I disagree. Revelation may be a book of symbols, riddles and metaphors... but it is not all symbolic. IMO.
I read it.Read Gen. 7:4.
Is it possible the exact year when the tribulation will end is being concealed in the scriptures that we do not yet recognize, just as the disciples were blinded to the scriptures and did not recognize that Jesus came to die on cross as Israel's suffering Messiah? Luke 18:31-34.
In the book of Genesis the Lord told Abraham that his offspring would be servants and suffer affliction in a land not their own (Genesis 15:13) for a total of 400 years. And this 400 year period of time was fulfilled when Moses delivered Israel from their bondage to Pharaoh after 430 years in Egypt and Canaan, Exodus 12:40 (Septuagint), Acts 7:6-7.
God also told Jeremiah that rebellious Israel would be taken captive for 70 years in Babylon, Jeremiah 29:10. And in the book of Daniel the angel Gabriel said there would be a period of 483 years from the decree of Artaxerxes when the anointed one (Jesus) would come to Jerusalem and be killed but not for himself, Daniel 9:25-26.
Over and over again the Lord has revealed in his Word the exact number of years for when Israel's servitude and captivity would end. And when you consider this prophetic fact its reasonable to assume the specific year for when Israel will be set free from their slavery to sin at the end of the tribulation may be hidden in the scriptures that we are unable to recognize unless God opens our spiritually blinded eyes.
The scriptural stories that are symbolic for a 2000 year gospel age that began from Jesus resurrection in 30 to 33 AD point to the probable time-frame of 2037 to 2040 for when the last year of the tribulation will be fulfilled. And the possible last year of the tribulation in 2037, 2038, 2039 or 2040, may be hidden in some mysterious and cryptic story that we do not yet perceive.
If the tribulation ends in the 2037 to 2040 time-frame, the generation that was born in 1948 when Israel became a nation will be approximately 89 to 92 years old when Jesus returns. And its possible the number 89, 90, 91 or 92 that's mentioned in a story may be revealing how old this generation of 1948 will be at the end of the tribulation.
Even though no one knows the exact day or hour when the 7 years of tribulation will begin, God may have hidden in his Word the specific year when tribulation will end. Therefore if your eyes have been opened to see a scriptural clue or symbolic number that may represent the last year of the tribulation please share your thoughts.
It's not exhaustively symbolic. The symbols are mixed with the literal theme.If it is mostly symbols, how can it not be symbolic? Have you seen any green horses or red dragons lately?
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