Is the Word of God Feminine?

[Eldeah]

Hi

I Think the "the word" of G'd to be feminine in nature based on various passages of the bible.
It also makes more sense to have a female aspect within the trinity given the claim that humans
are made in the image of G'd.

Lets start with Proverbs 8:22-31. In the book of Proverbs we encounter the character of Wisdom.
throughout the text we read that this character is feminine in nature and that it was with G'd from
the beginning of creation.

In my opinion this character of Wisdom is the same as the Logos of John, for and through which everything was created.
This Wisdom became flesh and dwelled among us through the body of Jesus, the messiah.

What do you think?
Is the Logos feminine or masculine in nature?

 

[Aaron112]

There is neither Jew nor greek , male nor female in heaven, as written.
To try to make it so, adds to or takes away from God's Word, punishable sin of possible dire consequences.

 

[Reluctant Theologian]

Hi

I Think the "the word" of G'd to be feminine in nature based on various passages of the bible.
It also makes more sense to have a female aspect within the trinity given the claim that humans
are made in the image of G'd.

Lets start with Proverbs 8:22-31. In the book of Proverbs we encounter the character of Wisdom.
throughout the text we read that this character is feminine in nature and that it was with G'd from
the beginning of creation.

In my opinion this character of Wisdom is the same as the Logos of John, for and through which everything was created.
This Wisdom became flesh and dwelled among us through the body of Jesus, the messiah.

What do you think?
Is the Logos feminine or masculine in nature?

Both the words for 'word' in Hebrew (H 1697 - Dabar) and Greek (G 3056 - Logos) are masculine. Yeshua also is called the Word of God and even is a real man.

God the Father is a spirit and not a man - so neither man or woman, but he chose to reveal Himself as a Father, masculine. Still, God also has feminine traits as He is nurturing, gives life, merciful.

The Hebrew word for mercy is 'rachamim' (in Dutch 'barmhartigheid' ) - derived from the word 'rechem' which means womb .. that certainly is a feminine thing.

Don't try to fight the patriarchal patterns in the Bible - if you try that you risk wasting a lot of energy making forced/unnatural readings acceptable. (But I realise the pull towards that is very strong in The Netherlands ... )

On Proverbs I don't read Yeshua into the 'lady Wisdom' featuring in that book. It is poetic, symbolic language - you're taking the analogy too far. Some Early Church Fathers did that as well and based on those texts in Proverbs argued Yeshua was created - which I don't agree to. I recommend this Bible Project clip on Proverbs:

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Hi

I Think the "the word" of G'd to be feminine in nature based on various passages of the bible.
It also makes more sense to have a female aspect within the trinity given the claim that humans
are made in the image of G'd.

Lets start with Proverbs 8:22-31. In the book of Proverbs we encounter the character of Wisdom.
throughout the text we read that this character is feminine in nature and that it was with G'd from
the beginning of creation.

In my opinion this character of Wisdom is the same as the Logos of John, for and through which everything was created.
This Wisdom became flesh and dwelled among us through the body of Jesus, the messiah.

What do you think?
Is the Logos feminine or masculine in nature?

The word of God is a seed, thus masculine.

The word of God became flesh and lived among us, thus masculine.

 

[awstar]

God the Father is a spirit and not a man - so neither man or woman, but he chose to reveal Himself as a Father, masculine

The Word is like a seed -- a least according to Jesus. " ... The seed is the word of God " Luke 8:11 -- as is sperm; therefore masculine.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

The wisdom of God to Solomon was feminine because he was a man.

The prophets tended to let their conversations with their wives leak out in their prophecies.

It was just a limitation of humanity prior to Jesus Christ.

They couldn't actually be like God, so they used the "one flesh" to simulate a God likeness.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Hi

I Think the "the word" of G'd to be feminine in nature based on various passages of the bible.
It also makes more sense to have a female aspect within the trinity given the claim that humans
are made in the image of G'd.

Lets start with Proverbs 8:22-31. In the book of Proverbs we encounter the character of Wisdom.
throughout the text we read that this character is feminine in nature and that it was with G'd from
the beginning of creation.

In my opinion this character of Wisdom is the same as the Logos of John, for and through which everything was created.
This Wisdom became flesh and dwelled among us through the body of Jesus, the messiah.

What do you think?
Is the Logos feminine or masculine in nature?

Logos is Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Blessings

 

[Johan2222]

Hi

I Think the "the word" of G'd to be feminine in nature based on various passages of the bible.
It also makes more sense to have a female aspect within the trinity given the claim that humans
are made in the image of G'd.

Lets start with Proverbs 8:22-31. In the book of Proverbs we encounter the character of Wisdom.
throughout the text we read that this character is feminine in nature and that it was with G'd from
the beginning of creation.

In my opinion this character of Wisdom is the same as the Logos of John, for and through which everything was created.
This Wisdom became flesh and dwelled among us through the body of Jesus, the messiah.

What do you think?
Is the Logos feminine or masculine in nature?

Titus 3.9
Romans 1.21
Proverbs 3.7
Proverbs 12.23
Proverbs 14.3
Proverbs 15.2
Proverbs 26.4,5

 

[com7fy8]

Hi

I Think the "the word" of G'd to be feminine in nature based on various passages of the bible.
It also makes more sense to have a female aspect within the trinity given the claim that humans
are made in the image of G'd.

In the Trinity the Holy Spirit is called "He". But the Holy Spirit cares for us the children of God, and prepares us for our Groom Jesus. These can be a mother's functions.

Lets start with Proverbs 8:22-31. In the book of Proverbs we encounter the character of Wisdom.
throughout the text we read that this character is feminine in nature and that it was with G'd from
the beginning of creation.

Yes. But therefore what? Why does it matter to you . . . if wisdom is female??

If we get picky about words, yes Proverbs calls wisdom "she". But Jesus is "the wisdom of God", our Apostle Paul does say in 1 Corinthians 1:24. And it is clear that Jesus is called God's "Son".

So, what does this mean to you? What is your intention? You can say there is a contradiction. Or, you have something else . . . about wisdom being called female and then Jesus is called male as God's Son.

Different ones can handle this differently according to their intentions and character.

My consideration > Jesus is God's Son. And He has been our Father's helper in creation. And a helper can be the wife. Jesus is the best of all that is male and female, I would say. Jesus living through a Christian lady does just fine; we don't hear complaining by godly husbands about how Jesus God's Son is relating with them through their godly wives.

And you can read how Paul and Sylvanus and Timothy related with the Thessalonians > "as a nursing mother cherishes her own children" (in 1 Thessalonians 2:7). They are not ashamed or afraid to liken themselves to a nursing mother.

After all, the best of all is in God's one love.

So, as we grow in Jesus, we grow in all ability of our Heavenly Father for sharing and caring as family. This is what I think we should get from this . . not only taking sides about who gets a "male" or "female" label.

In my opinion this character of Wisdom is the same as the Logos of John, for and through which everything was created.

Well, we do have that "all things were created through Him", in Colossians 1:16.

This Wisdom became flesh and dwelled among us through the body of Jesus, the messiah.

What do you think?
Is the Logos feminine or masculine in nature?

The Logos is the Son who is male. And all that is good of female is in Jesus for creating all that is good about females. So, how about "both"?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Just don't overlook Jesus is MORE than the logos itself

Yes, the" Word "( Logos) is God.
Blessings

 

[NBB]

If you mean the word of God as the things he says, then it has no gender, even if in some languages the are gendered words more than in english, like in spanish, palabra es 'la palabra' is gendered femenine, but something a person says has no gender.

And if you mean Jesus, that should be obvious.

 

[Reluctant Theologian]

Logos is Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Blessings

The Greek word 'logos' is much broader than that. It just means expression/utterance (in general) - and in the Greek world before Yeshua's time it was also a known philosophical concept - the intermediate between God and mankind. The Apostle John intriguingly uses that known concept of the Logos (that his readership would know about), and then applies it to Yeshua as 'the (ultimate) Logos'.

To understand John's reference to Logos well - you have to know what the concept meant in the culture back then.

For a concise history of the word 'Logos' see Logos - Wikipedia

 

[Eldeah]

In the Trinity the Holy Spirit is called "He". But the Holy Spirit cares for us the children of God, and prepares us for our Groom Jesus. These can be a mother's functions.

Yes. But therefore what? Why does it matter to you . . . if wisdom is female??

If we get picky about words, yes Proverbs calls wisdom "she". But Jesus is "the wisdom of God", our Apostle Paul does say in 1 Corinthians 1:24. And it is clear that Jesus is called God's "Son".

So, what does this mean to you? What is your intention? You can say there is a contradiction. Or, you have something else . . . about wisdom being called female and then Jesus is called male as God's Son.

Different ones can handle this differently according to their intentions and character.

My consideration > Jesus is God's Son. And He has been our Father's helper in creation. And a helper can be the wife. Jesus is the best of all that is male and female, I would say. Jesus living through a Christian lady does just fine; we don't hear complaining by godly husbands about how Jesus God's Son is relating with them through their godly wives.

And you can read how Paul and Sylvanus and Timothy related with the Thessalonians > "as a nursing mother cherishes her own children" (in 1 Thessalonians 2:7). They are not ashamed or afraid to liken themselves to a nursing mother.

After all, the best of all is in God's one love.

So, as we grow in Jesus, we grow in all ability of our Heavenly Father for sharing and caring as family. This is what I think we should get from this . . not only taking sides about who gets a "male" or "female" label.

Well, we do have that "all things were created through Him", in Colossians 1:16.

The Logos is the Son who is male. And all that is good of female is in Jesus for creating all that is good about females. So, how about "both"?

Well.. It kind of matters to what G'd actually is. Look, if we are created in the image of G'd, Male and Female, as it is said in Genesis. Than it would naturaly follow that "So Above so below". If G'd is a Trinity (Yhwh, Wisdom and Spirit(depicted as a dove)) than it would also follow that we share in that image of trinity as male, female and our spirit(which in my opinion is snakelike).

If this is the case than we as males should give females the same power as the father gives the son. Like how to logos gives life so does the female in our trinity.

Its just exploring the nature of G'd. Because i think people tend to make it more complex than it really is

 

[Eldeah]

Titus 3.9
Romans 1.21
Proverbs 3.7
Proverbs 12.23
Proverbs 14.3
Proverbs 15.2
Proverbs 26.4,5

I don't think you want to actualy think for yourself. If you find it foolish that we are created in a specific way that resemble G'd and prophets give us information so that we can unravel the nature of G'd. Exploring that isnt so foolish.

If you feel offended that I say that there is a feminine aspect to the saviour as part of the trinity, you should explore the book again

 

[Johan2222]

I don't think you want to actualy think for yourself. If you find it foolish that we are created in a specific way that resemble G'd and prophets give us information so that we can unravel the nature of G'd. Exploring that isnt so foolish.

If you feel offended that I say that there is a feminine aspect to the saviour as part of the trinity, you should explore the book again

No offence taken or intended friend.
After having read through God’s Word every year now for 24 years, it was only my fear of God and desire to obey his commandments that lead me to showing you what I did.

If you want understanding of God, the way has been revealed.

John 14:6 KJV
. . . I am the way, . . .

John 1:1 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Proverbs 3:5 KJV
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Proverbs 2:1,5 ASV
My son, if thou wilt receive my words, And lay up my commandments with thee; [5] Then shalt thou understand the fear of Jehovah, And find the knowledge of God.

Psalm 1:1-2 KJV
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. [2] But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

Psalm 112:1 KJV
Praise ye the LORD. Blessed is the man that feareth the LORD, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.

Ecclesiastes 12:11-13 KJV
[13] . . . Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

That which is corrupt, cannot understand anything of the holy, outside of revelation.

Proverbs 1:5-7 KJV
A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: [6] To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. [7] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

God, (the word) is the revealer of all secrets.

A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; . . . but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

 

[Eldeah]

No offence taken or intended friend.
After having read through God’s Word every year now for 24 years, it was only my fear of God and desire to obey his commandments that lead me to showing you what I did.

If you want understanding of God, the way has been revealed.

John 14:6 KJV
. . . I am the way, . . .

John 1:1 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Proverbs 3:5 KJV
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Proverbs 2:1,5 ASV
My son, if thou wilt receive my words, And lay up my commandments with thee; [5] Then shalt thou understand the fear of Jehovah, And find the knowledge of God.

Psalm 1:1-2 KJV
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. [2] But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

Psalm 112:1 KJV
Praise ye the LORD. Blessed is the man that feareth the LORD, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.

Ecclesiastes 12:11-13 KJV
[13] . . . Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

That which is corrupt, cannot understand anything of the holy, outside of revelation.

Proverbs 1:5-7 KJV
A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: [6] To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. [7] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

God, (the word) is the revealer of all secrets.

A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; . . . but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Reading the book for 24 years doesnt automatically mean that your vision is that of a wise man. The Desire of doing something doesnt mean you actually do the things that was commanded you to do.

Ofcourse the greatest and the second greatest commandment sum up what is required of us. But in order to love someone, you need to know that someone.

Look, all of us have been instructed by the book or by our predecessors who G'd is. None of us has a direct link to G'd like Moses or the prophets did. If the letters of the book hints that within the Godhead there is a Feminine aspect, like we humans do it depicts a better understanding of how we are in the image of that Godhead.

 

[Johan2222]

Reading the book for 24 years doesnt automatically mean that your vision is that of a wise man. The Desire of doing something doesnt mean you actually do the things that was commanded you to do.

Ofcourse the greatest and the second greatest commandment sum up what is required of us. But in order to love someone, you need to know that someone.

Look, all of us have been instructed by the book or by our predecessors who G'd is. None of us has a direct link to G'd like Moses or the prophets did. If the letters of the book hints that within the Godhead there is a Feminine aspect, like we humans do it depicts a better understanding of how we are in the image of that Godhead.

Proverbs 27:22 KJV
Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; . . . but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

 

[Eldeah]

Proverbs 27:22 KJV
Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; . . . but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Is it to hard to accept that the Godhead has an feminine side to it?

 

[Eldeah]

Proverbs 27:22 KJV
Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; . . . but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Is it too hard to accept that there is a feminine side within the Godhead?

 

[Johan2222]

Is it too hard to accept that there is a feminine side within the Godhead?

In Genesis 22.2 the word love first appears in scripture at the beginning of a passage where Abraham (meaning father of many) took his only begotten son into the land of Moriah to offer him as a sacrifice upon a mountain.

Some 2200 years after Abraham was born, God (the Father of many) took His only begotten Son into the land of Moriah to offer Him as a sacrifice upon a mountain.

Golgotha, the place where Christ was crucified is a peak in the Mountain range of Moriah.

Isaac, (meaning laughter) is mysteriously omitted from the Genesis story for two chapters, and the next time he appears is when he receives his bride, Rebekah.

Christ (The bringer of eternal laughter to mankind) has been mysteriously omitted from the history of man for two millennia, and the next time He will appear is when He receives His bride. (John 3.29. Matthew 25.10)

Abraham’s senior servant, Eliezer, (which means God comforts) who wields Abraham’s power over all of his possessions, is sent by Abraham to find a bride of unusual faith for Isaac.

God’s Holy Spirit (who Christ called "the comforter") who wields God’s power over all of creation was sent to earth by God to find a bride of unusual faith for Christ.

Abraham possesses the fire and the knife and Isaac bore the burden of the wood.

God possesses the Holy Spirit (revealed in the burning bush and tongues of fire) and the power of life and death, and Christ bore the burden of the cross.

Abraham had two sons; the son of the flesh, Ishmael, born first, and the son of the promise, Isaac, born afterwards by a miraculous conception.

God had two sons; the son of the flesh, Adam, born first, and the son of the promise, Jesus, born afterwards by a miraculous conception.

Isaac in this foreshadowing prophecy Is Acting As Christ, (Mnemonic) the only one of the Trinity to be revealed openly.

Abraham is playing the part of God and Eliezer is playing the part of the comforter the Holy Spirit.

All of them are male.

Genesis 41:32 KJV

And . . . doubled . . . twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.

DOUBLED TWICE

Doubled twice being “God's signature” (Gen 41.32) it is obviously not just coincidence that the word love first occurs in Genesis 22.2 (incidence number 2 of 222 in scripture) where it uncovers the love of the Spirit, while Genesis 2.22, incidence number 1 of 222 uncovers the love of man, but notably the word love is not used to describe it.

Here are the two scriptures.

Genesis 2:22 KJV
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. (the first time Adam saw Eve.)

Genesis 22:2 KJV
And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. (the foreshadowing of the crucifixion of Christ.)

1 Corinthians 15:45-47 KJV

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. [46] Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

Knowing that Christ is number 2 in heaven (John 14.28) and that the numbers were only put into the Bible about 400 years ago only serves to further confirm that there is no coincidence with God.

[10] Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Isaiah 46:

God has laid abundant evidence in his word to reveal the nature of the Godhead and the three characters that he chose to reveal the foreshadowing prophecy that you read above are all male.

There are many foreshadowing prophecies in the Bible about the Godhead and they all reveal the same thing.

God is not the author of confusion.