Is the theory of evolution moral and ethical

Loudmouth · Oct 28, 2015

Poster0 said:
Yes we are animals, but we were never as dumb as chimps, nor did we ever live in trees. We are also special among animals and are separate from them, because God made it that way. WE are more than just animals.

If we are separate from them, then why do chimps share more DNA with humans than they do with any other ape?

Frishy · Oct 28, 2015

Poster0 said:
Evolutionists speculated that the appendix was a useless organ, a leftover from the evolution process. However they were later proved to be wrong. They also speculated that Humans had junk DNA, but later they found out that this DNA has a purpose and was not junk. Yet, evolutionists will not admit that human evolution theory is built on speculation instead of actual science.

Seems you are itching to know how science actually works, and in this case, evolution has been OBSERVED to occur within human lifetimes.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/educators/course/session4/elaborate_b_pop1.html

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_and_Rosemary_Grant

They OBSERVED evolution happening...hope that helps you understand this isn't speculation.

Also, do you get a flu shot? Every year the formula has to be modified, since the viri are also modifying, thanks to evolution.

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

Loudmouth said:
Which post?

I believe they mentioned human artifacts found in coal deposits. Look, I'm not going to debate this further, I have seen the fallacies of evolution theory and so I cant support it. However, just so I can get out of this discussion, i'll say you are right. We descended from ape or chimp like creatures, who lived in trees 200,000 years ago and the evidence is overwhelming and cannot be refuted.

Fantomas318 · Oct 28, 2015

It takes more faith to believe in evolution then to believe in Bible...

Because evolution is just loads of arguments with no base in the truth...

If I take one little example so is evolutionists saying that the dinosaurs died 65 million years ago and first man appeared 2,5 million year ago, despite that there have been found traces with dinosaurs and man in same trace...
How can evolutionists explain that??

Also it was dinosaur and giant. (Man)
People were bigger and lived longer before Noah's flood.
There were different kind of climate.

It was Noah's flood that extinct the dinosaurs, not a comet...

Here is a scripture taken from Bible that is talking about dinosaurs:

”“Look now at the behemoth, which I made along with you; He eats grass like an ox. See now, his strength is in his hips, And his power is in his stomach muscles. He moves his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are tightly knit.
He is the first of the ways of God; Only He who made him can bring near His sword.”
Job 40:15-17, 19 NKJV

The behemoth I believe should be a "brontosaurus."
With a tail like a big tree.
It also say in verse 19 that he was the first God created and he can kill him (Noah's flood)

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

Frishy said:
Seems you are itching to know how science actually works, and in this case, evolution has been OBSERVED to occur within human lifetimes.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/educators/course/session4/elaborate_b_pop1.html

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_and_Rosemary_Grant

They OBSERVED evolution happening...hope that helps you understand this isn't speculation.

Also, do you get a flu shot? Every year the formula has to be modified, since the viri are also modifying, thanks to evolution.

Yes, thank you. I agree, our ancestors were chimp like creatures who lived in trees 200,000 years ago.

GoldenBoy89 · Oct 28, 2015

Poster0 said:
I believe they mentioned human artifacts found in coal deposits. Look, I'm not going to debate this further, I have seen the fallacies of evolution theory and so I cant support it. However, just so I can get out of this discussion, i'll say you are right. We descended from ape or chimp like creatures, who lived in trees 200,000 years ago and the evidence is overwhelming and cannot be refuted.

Try like, 5 million years ago.

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

Loudmouth said:
If we are separate from them, then why do chimps share more DNA with humans than they do with any other ape?

I don't know, but that's hardly evidence that we descended from creatures like them. However, to avoid further debate I'll say that it is evidence. You're right. Thank you.

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

GoldenBoy89 said:
Try like, 5 million years ago.

Last I heard, humans came into the picture 200,000 years ago and have been evolving ever since, so that would assume that we evolved from a dumb chimp like creature 200,000 years ago.

Loudmouth · Oct 28, 2015

Poster0 said:
Last I heard, humans came into the picture 200,000 years ago and have been evolving ever since, so that would assume that we evolved from a dumb chimp like creature 200,000 years ago.

Humans came into the picture more than 1 million years ago in the form of H. erectus. H. sapiens is just one human species out of many.

Loudmouth · Oct 28, 2015

Poster0 said:
I don't know, but that's hardly evidence that we descended from creatures like them. However, to avoid further debate I'll say that it is evidence. You're right. Thank you.

Why isn't it evidence?

Loudmouth · Oct 28, 2015

Fantomas318 said:
It takes more faith to believe in evolution then to believe in Bible...

Yet another Christian who uses faith as a term of derision. I guess that tells us how little you think of your own faith.

Also, we have the evidence. We don't need faith.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

Loudmouth said:
Humans came into the picture more than 1 million years ago in the form of H. erectus. H. sapiens is just one human species out of many.

So they say.

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

Loudmouth said:
Yet another Christian who uses faith as a term of derision. I guess that tells us how little you think of your own faith.

Also, we have the evidence. We don't need faith.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

You have notions, not evidence.

Loudmouth · Oct 28, 2015

Poster0 said:
So they say.

That's what the evidence is.

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-erectus

Loudmouth · Oct 28, 2015

Poster0 said:
You have notions, not evidence.

How is the placement of retroviruses in the human and chimp genome "notions"? That is hard, empirical evidence.

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

In the beginning, God created H. erectus, an ape like creature who was no more inteligent than a Chimp, he lived in trees and lived like a dumb beast. God allowed him to slowly evolve, over millions of years, into one form, and into another, and another, until finally he evolved into man.

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

Loudmouth said:
How is the placement of retroviruses in the human and chimp genome "notions"? That is hard, empirical evidence.

No its not. Evolutionists don't even understand what 90% of human DNA is for, how can they tell us that they understand Human DNA? They cant, all they can do is speculate.

Poster0 · Oct 28, 2015

It was only 20 years ago that science was misusing DNA to convict innocent people of crimes, because they didnt understand what they were looking at. Not long ago they were telling us that the apendix was useless, and they were proven wrong, but now we are supposed to believe that they can tell us what hapened 1 million years ago? We are supposed to believe that they understand what they are looking at? These people dont know what they are talking about. They are speculating. Its not evidence, its just speculation. Wake up and stop driking the ToE cool aid.

2consider · Oct 28, 2015

Loudmouth said:
Then look at the evidence yourself.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution

What is stopping you?

What makes you think anything is stopping me? Furthermore, why do you assume I haven't seen it before? I earned my science degree, how about you? I paid thousands of dollars to fed this stuff. Then found out, most of the theory is wrong, completely unsupported or on shaky ground.

It's dogmatic because the evidences against it are never presented.

Much of the so called evidence can be used by either side of the discussion.

This video will dispute most of the "evidences" in your link, using the same evidence.

Search the Cambrian explosion and you'll find both sides use it to support their position.

I'll go a step further and say it's worse than dogma, it's indoctrination.

Indoctrination is teaching one view and purposely withhold any information the contradicts it. In the above video you'll hear the head of science education admit, teaching the opposing view might confuse students. Eugenie Scott, the Director of the Department of Science Education thinks kids are too stupid to hear opposing views, and she admits it. Ffwd to about 42:00 and hear it for yourself.

And why is there a department of science education anyway? Can it really be called education if what is taught is approved or censored by a government department.

Another step beyond that, it's brainwashing. By definition, brainwashing is forced indoctrination. I don't know about you, but where I live, we're forced to go to school, and teaching anything but the "approved" curriculum is against the law.

That my friend is, by definition, brainwashing.

malvina · Oct 28, 2015

Well I certainly don't accept it - that is - fish to monkeys - to human beings.... our God isn't like that

There is ample evidence of a created universe and the created world that we live in. We are getting regular news of ancient discoveries giving evidence of the ''world before our created one' God made our
world from the dust of the ancient world - where there was fallen angels - 'giants' that created the
buildings that present day that man couldn't have built and there are many discoveries of the bones of giants being unearthed too - huge ones!
I believe the bible to be true - ALL - of it. There is nothing in the bible that said God created a fish to
turn into a human being He made man and woman.

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