No - I am not saying that.
I am saying that I am not sure on it, whether God allowed in under the Mosaic covenant or not, and WHY it is not listed in the Law. I really do not know on this one.
That is one person's opinion.
Do you have any concept of the gravity of the Acts 15 decision?
It might be.It's one of those mysteries?
Who said I don't? The 4 prohibitions of Acts 15 includes "fornication," which is the english they used to translate "inappropriate contentia." From my study and prayer about this word, I would take it to mean (as used by the diaspora Jewish community in Greece) to be anything that violated Torah sexual commands - including sex during menses. That would make it universal as well.Why do you believe the menstruation laws in Leviticus 18 aren't universal like the incest and homosexuality?
Who said I don't? The 4 prohibitions of Acts 15 includes "fornication," which is the english they used to translate "inappropriate contentia." From my study and prayer about this word, I would take it to mean (as used by the diaspora Jewish community in Greece) to be anything that violated Torah sexual commands - including sex during menses. That would make it universal as well.
The problem with this view is that if the Scriptures are applied consistently, even touching a woman who is having her menstrual flow would be forbidden. Further, according to Leviticus 15:20-23, even touching something that the woman has also touched would be forbidden. Do these laws apply to us today? No, they do not. Why? It is important to remember the purpose of the Old Testament laws concerning blood. In the sacrificial system, blood was sacred (Leviticus 17:11). A woman’s “uncleanness” during her period was symbolic of the value placed on blood. As a result, contact with a woman who was having her period was forbidden.
Who said I don't? The 4 prohibitions of Acts 15 includes "fornication," which is the english they used to translate "inappropriate contentia." From my study and prayer about this word, I would take it to mean (as used by the diaspora Jewish community in Greece) to be anything that violated Torah sexual commands - including sex during menses. That would make it universal as well.
Having sex with one's pregnant wife was unacceptable. In fact, Ambrose called for his congregation to 'either emulate the beasts or fear God'. Animals, he explained, are only 'animated by the urge to preserve their kind, not by the desire for sexual union. For, as soon as they perceive that the womb is gravid, they cease to indulge in sexual intercourse.' If his audience was not convinced by the parallels to the animal kingdom, Ambrose exhorted them to 'Control your lust and look upon the hands of your Creator, who fashions a human being within the maternal body. If he be at work, will you profane the peaceful sanctuary of the maternal body with carnal desire?'
Not having sex during menses is biblical:Is that bibical or another ECF type doctrine?
Not having sex during menses is biblical:
Leviticus 15:19 “‘When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening.
24 “‘If a man has sexual relations with her and her monthly flow touches him, he will be unclean for seven days; any bed he lies on will be unclean.
25 “‘When she is cleansed from her discharge, she must count off seven days, and after that she will be ceremonially clean.
Not having sex during menses is biblical:
Leviticus 15:19 “‘When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening.
24 “‘If a man has sexual relations with her and her monthly flow touches him, he will be unclean for seven days; any bed he lies on will be unclean.
25 “‘When she is cleansed from her discharge, she must count off seven days, and after that she will be ceremonially clean.
1 Corinthians 6:15-17 is Bible.
I don't know what you mean, about making marriage mystical.
This is how I see that scripture:
God designed marriage to join two humans into one FLESH. Not spirit.
Too many Christians try to make marriage a spiritual union. It isn't.
A husband and wife may be joined in marriage "in the Lord", but that still does not make them one spirit.
They can be joined together as brother and sister in deep spiritual union, as all believers are, in fellowship in Christ, in the unity of the Spirit. But this only comes through time spent in deep fellowship and prayer. It doesn't happen by virtue of the marriage union.
You see, God said in Malachi 2:15
God joined two into one, but reserved for himself that which is not joined together.
He reserves to Himself the 'residue' (leftover part) which is the spirit of each person.
This is why if a widow remarries, it's not adultery--because the marriage does not exist in the spirit realm.
And this is also why a wife cannot hide behind her husband at the Judgment. She will be held accountable for her own conscience, no matter what her husband asked her to do. Remember Sapphira of Acts 5? She was not excused from her lie, because of the 'spiritual headship' of her husband. God expected her to stand up to Ananias, and refuse to do his bidding!"
God reserves for Himself, the spirit of each person.
And just as humans are joined in marriage, and the wife receives life from her husband, to conceive...
Even so, God wants us to be so intimately in deep fellowship with Himself, on a spirit-plane.
He wants us to pray constantly, as if it were more important to us than breathing, than eating, than drinking water.
When someone falls in love, it changes their appetite, their sleeping patterns, and their entire way of thinking.
God wants this kind of relationship with us.
He wants us to fall in love with Him, and seek His presence and His voice constantly.
When this happens, we change completely.
And when we fall out of love with Him, it's because we have left our first love.
We choose to seek other fulfillment, outside of Christ.
And we get our eyes on the idols of this world. Sports. Money. Success. And earthly romance.
But those things can never fill the spirit.
And for a Christian, it's spiritually cuckolding our heavenly Bridegroom.
So we think He doesn't see?
Do we think He doesn't care?
He cares just as much as any earthly bridegroom would care, to find his betrothed is having an affair on the side!
Those who leave their first love, become lukewarm.
And Jesus says He will spit them out like disgusting water.
Many think they are ready for death, because they "prayed a prayer" once, and "accepted Jesus".
But John says that if we say we have fellowship with Him, and do not walk in the light, we are lying.
So, yeah.
He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit.
Like marriage.
I disagree. Sex is a spiritual activity. What I mean by that is that it is the covenant act that joins a man and woman together and makes them one flesh. Yes, the commitment made in marriage is the joining together but this is what is meant by the consummation of marriage. This is why Paul says that if we fornicate with a prostitute we are joining Christ to the harlot (1 Co.6:15).
They become one flesh.What does being united by God mean then? I am confused.
They become one flesh.
Science is only now realizing how accurate this could be.
Scientific studies of other species have demonstrated that the DNA of the first male a female ever mated with, can end up in her brain... and stay there for the rest of her life.
In fact, it is part of the scientific record that a mare bred first to a zebra, and bearing a half-zebra, half-horse, may, even though never bred to a zebra again, bear offspring with striped legs. Zebra stripes, on a colt whose parents are both horses. The only way that can happen, is if the sperm of the male does more than simply impregnate and then die. His DNA invades her DNA.
This may be one reason couples who celebrate their 50th anniversary look more alike when old, then they did when young.
And it puts a whole new light on possibly why God put such a premium on virginity, for brides.
I answered that in post 104Wasn't that just Old Testament laws about purity and not universal?
I answered that in post 104
It is antagonistic to Yahweh's nature for Him to create something that is profane, obscene, or sinful.
It's very simple.Fornicators become one flesh too, a terrible sin. You aren't explain what united by God means.
It's very simple.
1 Corinthians 6:16 "What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh."
Therefore, God created the "joining together as one flesh" mechanism when he made Adam and Eve.
And by that mechanism, he joins together every man and woman who have sex.
And that's how God even designed the joining that happens when a man visits a harlot.
This passage says he becomes "one flesh" with her.
The same words used for marriage.
it happens with harlots.
And yes, it's a sin.
Because it's a twisting of creation. It's taking something God created for one purpose, and using it for something else, in a destructive way.
And that's why any sin, is sin. It's the misuse and abuse of God's creation.
It's confusing what God created.
And that's the whole point of 1 Corinthians 11:3-15. God wants women to be feminine. He wants men to be masculine. Not just in acknowledging their body parts, but in the way one appears in dress and hairstyle. It's about honoring our Creator.
There’s nothing feminine or masculine about a particular style of clothing—these things are culturally defined and cultures are constantly changing. If you live in a culture where only men wear pants and you put on a pair of pants, you are going to make people uncomfortable and you are going to compromise your witness.
It's very simple.
1 Corinthians 6:16 "What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh."
Therefore, God created the "joining together as one flesh" mechanism when he made Adam and Eve.
And by that mechanism, he joins together every man and woman who have sex.
And that's how God even designed the joining that happens when a man visits a harlot.
This passage says he becomes "one flesh" with her.
The same words used for marriage.
it happens with harlots.
And yes, it's a sin.
Because it's a twisting of creation. It's taking something God created for one purpose, and using it for something else, in a destructive way.
And that's why any sin, is sin. It's the misuse and abuse of God's creation.
It's confusing what God created.
And that's the whole point of 1 Corinthians 11:3-15. God wants women to be feminine. He wants men to be masculine. Not just in acknowledging their body parts, but in the way one appears in dress and hairstyle. It's about honoring our Creator.
I believe it is entirely biblical.
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