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I'm a disciple of Jesus, of his original teachings. I belive he is the Christ. One would have to ask which Christian doctrine as there are thousands.
This AV1611vet is not an honest person. When cornered he doesn't do well. He's anti-fact and anti-science, it's in his signature. NOTE, he chose an anti-Christ skeptic site discussing atheist Martin Gardner's critique of the Urantia Book instead of anything specifically from the book. That's what dishonest Baptist do when they aren't burning books.
Jesus and the 12 didn't go from town to town preaching "kill Jesus as a sacrifice for your sins".
Jesus lived for the cause if salvation making the way more clear. God has always been forgiving. Killing an innocent God wasn't needed. Your theoretical human sacrifice doctrine is your own business.The only help that Christ provides for sinners is in His perfect life and death on our behalf. If you reduce Christ to just a moral teacher, following His teachings, absent from faith in His sacrifice for your sins, will only lead one straight to condemnation.
The people believed in his "good news" gospel long before the cross. The good news of the original gospel was different than the theoretical human sacrifice doctrine.Of course not. He had already been crucified. They were urging faith in His blood over faith in one's obedience to the law s the only way to peace with God, and I believe their witness.
Like these?I'm a disciple of Jesus, of his original teachings.
Here are some things Urantia teaches:
Source: Larson's Book of World Religions and Alternative Spirituality
- Prayer is not to be attempted until one has "exhausted the human capacity for human adjustment." In addition, "words are irrelevant to prayer."
- The biblical doctrine of atonement (Hebrews 9:22) "unnecessarily encumbered Christianity with teachings about blood and sacrifice."
- The home is seen as a "sociological institution," and the belief that marriage is a sacred state is called "unfortunate." "Deity is not a conjoining party" in marriages that dissolve.
- Mankind's parents were named Andon and Fonta, who procreated Sontad.
- Adam, Solomon, and David were not in the direct line of ancestry of Joseph, the father of Jesus.
- Jesus adopted the term "Son of Man" at age fifteen after reading a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch.
- During his twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth years on earth, Jesus toured the Roman world, accompanied by the natives from India.
- The indwelling Christ is not essential to salvation, since "Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe with him."
Jesus lived for the cause if salvation making the way more clear. God has always been forgiving. Killing an innocent God wasn't needed. Your theoretical human sacrifice doctrine is your own business.
Then why did Job, Moses, David, Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Jonah, and Habakkuk mention it?
Like these?
The people believed in his "good news" gospel long before the cross. The good news of the original gospel was different than the theoretical human sacrifice doctrine.
I noticed that too!"Original teachings" was a red flag.
"Borrowed"!?They didn't, they used the word שאול.
-CryptoLutheran
Salvation by faith has always been the Gospel. But some of the Jews lost sight of that fir the same reason you don't believe it either. So they turned to Pagan sacrifices which suited the temple profiteers nicely. After Jesus left Pagan sacrifices emerged again.Yes. they did. The gospel which was first proclaimed in Genesis 3, and it even foretold of the death of Christ.
What's that have to do with anything?"Hell" appears some 50+ times in the KJB, from Deuteronomy 32:22 to Revelation 20:14.I'll take your word for it.
I never heard of "Hel" until just now.Then why did Job, Moses, David, Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Jonah, and Habakkuk mention it?
Well, if they did, then SHEOL means HELL.FYI, Job, Moses, David, Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Jonah, and Habakkuk used the word "sheol," as you MUST know, if you know your Bible at all.
Well, if they did, then SHEOL means HELL.
As I said earlier, the King James translators had a lot of correcting to do, didn't they?
I've said this many times, and it bears repeating:
Where the King James Bible differs from the originals, the originals are wrong.
That's because Job, Moses, David, Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Jonah, and Habakkuk didn't write the originals ... they wrote the autographs.
The originals are copies of the autographs.
Fair enough."Sheol" does not mean "Hell," in the sense of a place of eternal, conscious torment,
It doesn't matter if I'm aware of it or not.Lazarus Short said:... and how can you be unaware of that?
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