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Is some of the anti science movement to be blamed on scientists?

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If the geologic column is not a reliable way to date something, how was it that Neil Shubin was able to find Tiktaalik?

As I stated, certain weights and types will fall of into different layers of earth, which will develop a repeatable pattern, still, Geologic 'time scale' from depth is not reliable or rational if you consider a flood.
 
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You do realize that there is absolutely no archeological evidence to support this claim whatsoever. Egyptian history never once mentions the Israelites. There is no extrabiblical evidence to support your belief.
 
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As I stated, certain weights and types will fall of into different layers of earth, which will develop a repeatable pattern, still, Geologic 'time scale' from depth is not reliable or rational if you consider a flood.
Thank you. You have demonstrated you have no understanding of the biodiversity and biodistribution of life as relates to the geologic column.

Carry on.
 
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As I stated, certain weights and types will fall of into different layers of earth, which will develop a repeatable pattern, still, Geologic 'time scale' from depth is not reliable or rational if you consider a flood.

Well, we'e got plenty of reasons not to consider a flood, so that's easy enough.
 
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Well, we'e got plenty of reasons not to consider a flood, so that's easy enough.
Yup -- it would drown your whole set of paradigms, wouldn't it?

Your whole infrastructure, that took hundreds of years to build, up would sink, eh?
 
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Yup -- it would drown your whole set of paradigms, wouldn't it?

Your whole infrastructure, that took hundreds of years to build, up would sink, eh?
Conversely, it would really make your paradigms afloat, eh. Keep looking.

Meanwhile, your whole infrastructure that has been cobbled together and hamstrung humanity is finally beginning to sink, eh.
 
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Thank you. You have demonstrated you have no understanding of the biodiversity and biodistribution of life as relates to the geologic column.

Carry on.


What.. the earth is like a giant centrifuge, isn't it? I mean, it spins and everything!
 
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What.. the earth is like a giant centrifuge, isn't it? I mean, it spins and everything!
Yes, and if we keep tearing down mountains and cutting down trees, the earth is going to rotate faster and faster due to the decreasing orographic radius, causing night and day to come sooner, meaning the earth will have to speed its revolution to match one orbit per 365 rotations, which will increase our distance from the sun, meaning global warming will have to accelerate to compensate for the loss in average temperature, and eventually we'll drop below the anthropic norms and end up going extinct because evolution is too slow.

Did you ever think of that?
 
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I noticed your icon was Pentecostal. Have you seen the documentary Marjoe, by any chance? If so, what did you think?

Php 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
Php 1:16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
Php 1:17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
Php 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

This is nothing new to Christianity, as even Paul witnesses to this.

It is sad that it happens, but as Christians lose desire to hear the word of God, and desire instead a show, this is what you will get, showmen.
 
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So how would one distinguish between a "showmen" and the 'real deal?'
 
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Question, for all you conspiracy nuts,that think GW, evolution and such are all big conspiracies, with the goverments and organizations behind it to fraud the world...why don't they do a better job of it? If I was going to fake something and have alot of money to do it, I wouldn't throw out a few fossils a few expensive DNA tests, or other such things, I go full bore, create massive evidence making up graphs, using computer simulations and computers to doctor the evidence and so on, something that while faked would be impossible to deny. As people like to say, "Well if the earth is billions of years old why arn't there more fossils." well that there be a great point to start making up more fossils for evolution and do thousands at a time.

It's funny that all these great conspiracies that are entirely based around money and defrauding people do it in the same way you would legit experiments and such, doesn't mean they couldn't be wrong, but it doesn't make sense with the supposed level of these conspiracies.
 
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But can you give reference that it caused the world population to decrease over that year?

Every reference I have seen shows the world population still rising, even though one part of the world decreases.

Incorrect. Click here and follow the references.

When I mentioned the black death being responsible for one third of deaths, I wasn't referring to one third of the population of Iceland or St Lucia, I was referring to one third of the population of the entire continents of Europe and Asia. You seriously think that a 33% decline in those continents over 4 years is not going to reduce the world's population significantly? Sorry, but the stats are against you here.
 
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My point was, geologic columns are not a reliable way to date anything. Just put different matter in a cup of water, swirl it around, and you will see the more dense go to the bottom, and lighter on top.
And you think the geologic column is sorted that way? *blink*

I'm not sure about densities, but one of the ways sediments sort in water is by grain size (bigger at the bottom).

If I remember my geology field trips correctly, there's a counterexample to that about fifteen minutes from where I sit now, in the form of fine-grained shales sitting under a big pile of much coarser sandstone layers. It's hardly the only example, either. The rock record just cannot be explained by simple sorting.



That post reminds me so much of this time I was talking to someone who opposed wind power on the sole reason that she thought we'd eventually run out of wind.
I hope you're kidding.
 
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well were going to run out of solar power "Soon" but thats just stupid, we can set up a bunch of fans to once we run out of wind power :> j/k.
 
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Plus there's the fact that evaporites exist beneath other types of strata. When you look at the method by which evaporites form, you'll see that there's no way you can explain their presence using the global flood model.
 
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you'll see that there's no way you can explain their presence using the global flood model.

lol, 'the global flood model'.

Every continent that man has inhabited has had some record of a global flood. I know testimonies mean nothing to you, but it can convict or free a person accused of murder.
 
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