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<blockquote data-quote="2PhiloVoid" data-source="post: 72882068" data-attributes="member: 167101"><p>Who said that we have to begin by assuming that ANY of the bible is God inspired? I didn't. And if I remember right, I've already told you previously that my approach requires no such initial thesis. In fact, any consideration about the Bible being 'inspired' by God in any kind of theoretical capacity need only come........................at the very <strong>END</strong> of our full process of personal evaluation. (Besides, the epistemolgical indications in the Bible say that some amount of your ability to believe will have to come from God and whether that comes at the beginning of a persons quest or at the end of it is only something you can decide.)</p><p></p><p>Anyway, we need not assume "Godly inspiration" as an axiom just to give us some kind of artificial impetus to get us going. Instead, we can simply employ the field and discipline of hermeneutics in our attempt to understand what the writers/editors of the Torah (and the O.T. in full, really) wanted to convey. But, if you're not personally vested or interested in "finding out," then there's no reason for us to continue.</p><p></p><p>We've barely begun here to address the issues of the OP, which is sad for me to contemplate when I think about your present dilemma in facing off against disbelief. If I actually thought you wanted to believe, I'd probably sing a different song. But far be it from me to waste time on someone who thinks that my mode and method of study is impotent and essentially ill-begotten. I've pointed you to some resources, so use them. Moreover, when I became a Christian, no one took me by the hand to lead me through the maze which exists in a plethora of existential, historical, epistemological, theological, cultural, even rational studies that are needed to even to try to begin to understand this weird, crusty old Jewish collection of literature we call the Bible. No, I had to figure it out by myself by simply reading and comparing various PhD viewpoints.</p><p></p><p>So, good luck out there, cvanwey. Let me know when you want to stop hedging with your own version of semantic roulette and actually begin to take seriously reality and study and address this topic in a hermeneutical fashion. If you decide not to stop, then just know that I think you're an intelligent chap and I'm sure you'll make your way just fine without my help. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2PhiloVoid, post: 72882068, member: 167101"] Who said that we have to begin by assuming that ANY of the bible is God inspired? I didn't. And if I remember right, I've already told you previously that my approach requires no such initial thesis. In fact, any consideration about the Bible being 'inspired' by God in any kind of theoretical capacity need only come........................at the very [B]END[/B] of our full process of personal evaluation. (Besides, the epistemolgical indications in the Bible say that some amount of your ability to believe will have to come from God and whether that comes at the beginning of a persons quest or at the end of it is only something you can decide.) Anyway, we need not assume "Godly inspiration" as an axiom just to give us some kind of artificial impetus to get us going. Instead, we can simply employ the field and discipline of hermeneutics in our attempt to understand what the writers/editors of the Torah (and the O.T. in full, really) wanted to convey. But, if you're not personally vested or interested in "finding out," then there's no reason for us to continue. We've barely begun here to address the issues of the OP, which is sad for me to contemplate when I think about your present dilemma in facing off against disbelief. If I actually thought you wanted to believe, I'd probably sing a different song. But far be it from me to waste time on someone who thinks that my mode and method of study is impotent and essentially ill-begotten. I've pointed you to some resources, so use them. Moreover, when I became a Christian, no one took me by the hand to lead me through the maze which exists in a plethora of existential, historical, epistemological, theological, cultural, even rational studies that are needed to even to try to begin to understand this weird, crusty old Jewish collection of literature we call the Bible. No, I had to figure it out by myself by simply reading and comparing various PhD viewpoints. So, good luck out there, cvanwey. Let me know when you want to stop hedging with your own version of semantic roulette and actually begin to take seriously reality and study and address this topic in a hermeneutical fashion. If you decide not to stop, then just know that I think you're an intelligent chap and I'm sure you'll make your way just fine without my help. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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