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I have one! I guess I decided to go on a short bike ride instead....
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I have one! I guess I decided to go on a short bike ride instead....Off topic thought: I always wanted to go on a long bike ride, but the only long bikes I could find were tandems.
It's occured to me that science has led humanity on a path more in line with the study of facts, and proven things and such, and has led mankind toward the discouragement of philosophical thought. It seems that science has basically replaced philosophy.
Is it true that philosophy is ultimately outdated, pre-scientific thinking? Is philosophy "archaic" type thinking?
I believe philosophy is unavoidable in areas science doesn't or cannot reach, science can deal with vast areas but science does not deal with everything.
Today's winner. Emphatically, yes. It's perfectly reasonable to be unscientific where science does not apply.
"Science" is a philosophy. One that is popular though not universally so.I believe philosophy is unavoidable in areas science doesn't or cannot reach, science can deal with vast areas but science does not deal with everything.
That's not how science works. In general, a novel scientific observation must be confirmed by independent scientific replication before it is accepted; it's not a question of 'credible' people 'deciding'. But even 'established scientific facts' are implicitly provisional.If a new observation is discovered it encounters great resistance until it bevomes accepted.
But an actual new "observation" is considered "Baloney" until enough "credible" people decide it is valid and then it changes from "Baloney" to "Established Fact."
Doctoral nomenclature is traditional rather than literal.As you can see the philosophy of science is still just a philosophy.
Doc·tor of Phi·los·o·phy
/ˈdäktər əv fəˈläsəfē/
noun: PhD
- a doctorate in any discipline except medicine, or sometimes theology.
- a person holding a Doctor of Philosophy degree.
plural noun: Doctors of Philosophy; plural noun: DPhils; plural noun: PhDs
As you can see the philosophy of science is still just a philosophy.
Doc·tor of Phi·los·o·phy
/ˈdäktər əv fəˈläsəfē/
noun: PhD
- a doctorate in any discipline except medicine, or sometimes theology.
- a person holding a Doctor of Philosophy degree.
plural noun: Doctors of Philosophy; plural noun: DPhils; plural noun: PhDs
That's not so far off - I think any subject can be (and probably is) 'philosophised'; in general, it's the meta-consideration of a subject.... If so, nearly everything modern universities do is "philosophy".
That's not so far off - I think any subject can be (and probably is) 'philosophised'; in general, it's the meta-consideration of a subject.
If so, nearly everything modern universities do is "philosophy".
Good. I've come to the same conclusion. And I gave reasons why believing
what the high faluttin herd tells you it true, is a philosophy.
Even "Peer review" is a whimsical philosophy where the strangest people in the world decide if you are worthy of being published.
That's not how science works. In general, a novel scientific observation must be confirmed by independent scientific replication before it is accepted.
But that's still a philosophy given that at any time in the future, it might be shown to be "wrong" by hostile examination.
It's not so much 'beyond' physics, but about the ideas of physics and the questions raised by our existence in the physical world, including its semantics, e.g. what do we mean by 'real' or 'exist'?Personally, I reject the notion of "metaphysics". After all what is there except physics and things derived therefrom, so how could anything be beyond physics. Makes no sense.
That may be true of human society in general, but science is specifically not a philosophy of popular consensus, it's a philosophy advocating a methodology of corroborated and validated observational data and tested hypotheses.It's a philosophy that the more people agree, the more an idea is accepted or "true" or "a fact".
But that's still a philosophy given that at any time in the future, it might be shown to be "wrong" by hostile examination.
It's not the philosophy that is likely to be shown to be wrong - the philosophy has been developed in an evolutionary way, based on what has been shown to work most effectively.
Meh. Let me know when you find a more effective & successful means of acquiring knowledge about the world - or, for that matter, how you think the philosophy of science could be shown to be 'wrong'.Well. That's a declaration for the text books.
Meh. Let me know when you find a more effective & successful means of acquiring knowledge about the world - or, for that matter, how you think the philosophy of science could be shown to be 'wrong'.
That may be true of human society in general, but science is specifically not a philosophy of popular consensus, it's a philosophy advocating a methodology of corroborated and validated observational data and tested hypotheses.
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