Is Racism a Sin?

Ophiolite · Jul 21, 2019

Invalidusername said:
Making an assumption on skin color is simple deduction.

Highly illogical deduction that brings the concept of deduction into disrepute. Well, granted assuming someone with fair skin would be at risk of sunburn, or someone who appeared to have an African background might be at risk of sickle cell anemia, those might be logical deductions. Deducing behaviour, or life history not so much. I take it you missed Logic 101 at college.

Invalidusername said:
It is not discrimination or racism to make assumptions. If your feelings got hurt by that? Well then you better put on some big boy pants on and try as hard as you can to be brave.

Well I hope you have the big boy pants to accept that making assumptions is just pretty dumb. If your feelings got hurt by that I recommend not making any more dumb statements, that will cut the risk.

(Don't forget the two cheeks.)

GodLovesCats · Jul 21, 2019

Invalidusername said:
When did Trump say all black people are bad?

I was not quoting Trump.

childeye 2 · Jul 21, 2019

W2L said:
You accused me off hypocritical prejudice. Sounds like flaming to me

Respectfully prejudice and hypocrisy are not the same as hatred. This was your statement: "Libs cry wolf", meaning, liberals should be ignored when pointing to "go back to your own country", as racism. Prejudice means to have an unfounded and therefore unfair pre-conceived opinion about others or a group of others. I pointed out that your statement qualifies.

Hypocrisy is when we hold others to moral standards which we ourselves do not conform to. Hence it is hypocritical to treat others as you would not want to be treated. I've already pointed out that saying "libs cry wolf" is a disparaging assertion about liberals.

Invalidusername · Jul 21, 2019

Ophiolite said:
Highly illogical deduction that brings the concept of deduction into disrepute. Well, granted assuming someone with fair skin would be at risk of sunburn, or someone who appeared to have an African background might be at risk of sickle cell anemia, those might be logical deductions. Deducing behaviour, or life history not so much. I take it you missed Logic 101 at college.

Well I hope you have the big boy pants to accept that making assumptions is just pretty dumb. If your feelings got hurt by that I recommend not making any more dumb statements, that will cut the risk.

(Don't forget the two cheeks.)

Assumptions are still not racist. At least you see that now.

Invalidusername · Jul 21, 2019

ChristianForCats said:
I was not quoting Trump.

Yes but Trump said nothing like that so by your standard he isn't racist at all.

W2L · Jul 21, 2019

childeye 2 said:
Respectfully prejudice and hypocrisy are not the same as hatred. This was your statement: "Libs cry wolf", meaning, liberals should be ignored when pointing to "go back to your own country", as racism. Prejudice means to have an unfounded and therefore unfair pre-conceived opinion about others or a group of others. I pointed out that your statement qualifies.

Hypocrisy is when we hold others to moral standards which we ourselves do not conform to. Hence it is hypocritical to treat others as you would not want to be treated. I've already pointed out that saying "libs cry wolf" is a disparaging assertion about liberals.

its flaming.

W2L · Jul 21, 2019

also, im referring to libs in congress, not cf posters

childeye 2 · Jul 21, 2019

W2L said:
its flaming.

I have pointed out clearly to you that you're making unwarranted disparaging statements about others in this forum and you call it flaming. You have not contested my reasoning nor conclusions, despite my sincerely asking for your forthright correction.

The above statement therefore can only convey to me the sentiment that you wish to kill the messenger, rather than thank me for reminding you of God's Word to Love others as you would want to be loved. This is a Christian forum, and if God's Word is not allowed to be spoken nor practiced, then it is no longer a Christian forum.

Ken-1122 · Jul 21, 2019

Ophiolite said:
Of course, but when it is founded on seriously incomplete information then readers are likely to infer that the opinion was based more on beliefs than facts, especially when relevant information was readily available.

Others seem to have that in hand, but my argument may emerge when I get round to addressing your other posts on the "coded message" front. (I will say in passing that I find it surprising that someone who can right a coherent series of paragraphs is genuinely unaware that such codes are commonplace. Its almost like you have the literalist standpoint of an evolutionist. [and yes, I am poking you a little, It's a code thing. ])

Like I said before, if you disagree with anything I've said thus far, feel free to voice your disagreement.

Strathos · Jul 21, 2019

ChristianForCats said:
Ken is correct. Everyone has melanin expect albinos (and there are few such humans). Melainn produces a color. How light or dark you are is determined by how much melanin is produced, right?

"Black" is shorthand for African-American. Count the syllables: Af-ri-can A-mer-i-can.

What point are you trying to make here? People of Color is a common term used in modern day discourse, in the US, to refer to non-Caucasians, and it is considered a respectful and non-offensive term.

If you're offended by it anyway, then what term would you prefer I use?

childeye 2 · Jul 21, 2019

Invalidusername said:
Assumptions are still not racist. At least you see that now.

Assumptions can be racist. Like every prejudice, it assumes something about someone else without any justification.

childeye 2 · Jul 21, 2019

W2L said:
Do rules apply to you? Ask me why i stopped caring.

Why did you stop caring?

GodLovesCats · Jul 21, 2019

Strathos said:
What point are you trying to make here? People of Color is a common term used in modern day discourse, in the US, to refer to non-Caucasians, and it is considered a respectful and non-offensive term.

If you're offended by it anyway, then what term would you prefer I use?

I was explaining why another poster argued against calling dark-skinned people "of color."

W2L · Jul 21, 2019

childeye 2 said:
I have pointed out clearly to you that you're making unwarranted disparaging statements about others in this forum and you call it flaming. You have not contested my reasoning nor conclusions, despite my sincerely asking for your forthright correction.

The above statement therefore can only convey to me the sentiment that you wish to kill the messenger, rather than thank me for reminding you of God's Word to Love others as you would want to be loved. This is a Christian forum, and if God's Word is not allowed to be spoken nor practiced, then it is no longer a Christian forum.

nope.
im referring to libs in congress, not cf posters

GodLovesCats · Jul 21, 2019

childeye 2 said:
Assumptions can be racist. Like every prejudice, it assumes something about someone else without any justification.

I learned about prejudice in high school. It is making a bad assumption about a whole group like one who is judged to be a bad person (women, disabled, poor, black, you name it). Racial prejudices are obviously the most common and noticeable, but it could be anything.

Ken-1122 · Jul 21, 2019

Strathos said:
No it's not. It's just a convenient shorthand to refer to ethnic minorities in America.

Then why not just say “ethnic minorities”? Racists in this country have a history of separating the group they hate from all the rest.

Strathos said:
Discrimination against them exists, whether you acknowledge it or not.

Discrimination against EVERYBODY exists (yes even white people) whether you acknowledge it or not. No matter what race, creed or color you are, there will always be instances where your differences will work to your advantage, and instances where it will work to your disadvantage, (yes black and brown privileges exist also) it depends on where you look. The problem is when people only see their discrimination and neglect to recognize their privileges.

Strathos said:
Did he tell those people to 'go back to the countries they came from'?

Saying 'AOC is a liar, incompetent, and has bad policies' is not racist.

Saying 'AOC should go back to the crime-infested country she came from' is.

Trump said “Go back to your crime-infested country, fix it; then come back and tell us how it’s done.
I find it rather dishonest when you take only 25% of what he said, ignore the 75% that doesn’t fit within your agenda and try to make your case that way. You need to do better than this.

Strathos said:
That is a lie. Being Irish myself, I know this.

So what color were Irish people considered? Black people? Brown people? What?

Strathos said:
What do you consider to be racism? Nothing short of using racial slurs?

Racism is the belief that one race is superior or inferior to others; and the actions resulting from said belief.

childeye 2 · Jul 21, 2019

W2L said:
also, im referring to libs in congress, not cf posters

The golden rule applies to everyone, even congress.

W2L · Jul 21, 2019

the liberal media too

W2L · Jul 21, 2019

childeye 2 said:
The golden rule applies to everyone, even congress.

even trump?

W2L · Jul 21, 2019

you were saying about hypocrisy?

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