Is Racism a Sin?

[zephcom]

This pastor says that it is. And he calls out church leaders to label it as a sin.

Who Will Call Out the President's Racism?

Should national leaders be called out on their sins even if they are believed to support 'Christianity'? Or should only only national leaders who are believed to not support Christianity be called out on their sins?

Should the party who called out Bill Clinton for marital infidelity also call out Donald Trump for racism?? Within the realm of morals and ethics is there any reason why anyone should believe Christians have either morals or ethics?

 

[Invalidusername]

It depends on what you define as racism.

 

[WolfGate]

It depends on what you define as racism.

That reminds me of Clinton and the "is is" quote

 

[Gregory Thompson]

This pastor says that it is. And he calls out church leaders to label it as a sin.

Who Will Call Out the President's Racism?

Should national leaders be called out on their sins even if they are believed to support 'Christianity'? Or should only only national leaders who are believed to not support Christianity be called out on their sins?

Should the party who called out Bill Clinton for marital infidelity also call out Donald Trump for racism?? Within the realm of morals and ethics is there any reason why anyone should believe Christians have either morals or ethics?

A more recent example in history is the Bulgarian Orthodox Church after Ottoman rule , apparently it was concluded when the Greek Clergy were being ejected to preserve the Bulgarian culture.
“surrender of Orthodoxy to ethnic nationalism” was essentially a manifestation of heresy.
Bulgarian Orthodox Church - Wikipedia

 

[Not David]

That reminds me of Clinton and the "is is" quote

The view of race and its concepts is not the same regarding Old Testament, New Testament, and the present period.

 

[Stranger36147]

Don't know if it's a sin, but I do believe that God loves everyone. So I think we should try to look past our differences and try to love everyone as well, regardless of race, sex, culture, etc.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

If we're defining racism as hatred for other races because of their race, yes that is a sin. The Gospel is open to all peoples and all nations who are invited to partake of it and become part of the one family of God. To hate another race for their identity is sinful.

If we're using some modern definition like power plus privilege equals racism, then no, it is not a sin because that definition is stupid.

 

[com7fy8]

Is racism a sin and should political leaders be called out for their sin of racism? yes

But, first, we need to call our own selves out for how we can be racist or discriminatory in other ways. We can discriminate about beauty, but God is no respecter of persons.

Also, we ourselves can be picky and choosy and judgmental about who we love and who we do not love. But Jesus of Heaven is so un-conceited that Jesus left Heaven itself and suffered and died for every one of us, because Jesus is not racist or prejudiced about race, beauty, or financial status.

Meanwhile, ones of us might criticize a racist politician, while we ourselves possibly judge people by what they look like, in other ways.

Have we given at least as much attention to evaluating our own selves, as we give to evaluating others? I notice how a number of church and political leaders do not make as much of a point of pointing out how they themselves can be wrong. And this is discrimination, too, isn't it????

 

[zephcom]

Is racism a sin and should political leaders be called out for their sin of racism? yes

But, first, we need to call our own selves out for how we can be racist or discriminatory in other ways. We can discriminate about beauty, but God is no respecter of persons.

Also, we ourselves can be picky and choosy and judgmental about who we love and who we do not love. But Jesus of Heaven is so un-conceited that Jesus left Heaven itself and suffered and died for every one of us, because Jesus is not racist or prejudiced about race, beauty, or financial status.

Meanwhile, ones of us might criticize a racist politician, while we ourselves possibly judge people by what they look like, in other ways.

Have we given at least as much attention to evaluating our own selves, as we give to evaluating others? I notice how a number of church and political leaders do not make as much of a point of pointing out how they themselves can be wrong. And this is discrimination, too, isn't it????

Of course each of us should self-evaluate. But I don't think we necessary should do that first. Much damage to others can occur while we self-evaluate when we should have spoken out.

Silence is considered acceptance.

 

[com7fy8]

Silence is considered acceptance.

I don't think this is true all the time. But yes there are ones who say this.

Much damage to others can occur while we self-evaluate when we should have spoken out.

We have time to do both. So, do not be silent about our own selves, then. Political candidates have plenty of time to point out how they themselves need real correction, while they also point out what's happening with others.

And, like I say, there is plenty of discrimination about things besides race, including beauty discrimination. How can a person know how to really love, while he or she discriminates, in any way? We all need to deal with how we can judge others instead of loving the way Jesus wants. And covering ourselves up, by only pointing at others, does not solve our own problem of how we need to find out how to love.

Everyone needs to be dealt with, then, or else you can get into a superiority conceit thing of pointing only at certain people, and then your favorites might get in without getting the correction they also need. And then you can have their failure and self-righteously claiming to be superior.

So, yes racism is a sin, but it has company of beauty discrimination and favoritism for ones with money and education. And I have seen how people of various ethnic groups can be very discriminatory about beauty, and how this can have very cruel effects, socially. So, if you were to stop only the racist discrimination, you still would have people of various racial groups who do not know how to love and are socially cruel.

By the way, there are locations where non-whites conduct ethnic cleansing > ones of every group are capable of very cruel and cowardly stuff. It is not only a "white" thing. All of us humans can discriminate in one way or another; so calling out only certain ones is not the solution.

 

[Ken-1122]

This pastor says that it is. And he calls out church leaders to label it as a sin.

Who Will Call Out the President's Racism?

Should national leaders be called out on their sins even if they are believed to support 'Christianity'? Or should only only national leaders who are believed to not support Christianity be called out on their sins?

Should the party who called out Bill Clinton for marital infidelity also call out Donald Trump for racism?? Within the realm of morals and ethics is there any reason why anyone should believe Christians have either morals or ethics?

What did Trump say that was racist?

 

[zephcom]

I don't think this is true all the time. But yes there are ones who say this.

We have time to do both. So, do not be silent about our own selves, then. Political candidates have plenty of time to point out how they themselves need real correction, while they also point out what's happening with others.

And, like I say, there is plenty of discrimination about things besides race, including beauty discrimination. How can a person know how to really love, while he or she discriminates, in any way? We all need to deal with how we can judge others instead of loving the way Jesus wants. And covering ourselves up, by only pointing at others, does not solve our own problem of how we need to find out how to love.

Everyone needs to be dealt with, then, or else you can get into a superiority conceit thing of pointing only at certain people, and then your favorites might get in without getting the correction they also need. And then you can have their failure and self-righteously claiming to be superior.

So, yes racism is a sin, but it has company of beauty discrimination and favoritism for ones with money and education. And I have seen how people of various ethnic groups can be very discriminatory about beauty, and how this can have very cruel effects, socially. So, if you were to stop only the racist discrimination, you still would have people of various racial groups who do not know how to love and are socially cruel.

By the way, there are locations where non-whites conduct ethnic cleansing > ones of every group are capable of very cruel and cowardly stuff. It is not only a "white" thing. All of us humans can discriminate in one way or another; so calling out only certain ones is not the solution.

Are we then supposed to allow America's racism to hide among all the other sins until all the others are also enumerated? How about we start with racism and then work our way through all the rest? Or are to be forced to deal with all or none?

 

[zephcom]

What did Trump say that was racist?

The linked article included his comments.

 

[com7fy8]

Are we then supposed to allow America's racism to hide among all the other sins until all the others are also enumerated?

That might be like dealing only with bank robbers, and not dealing with rape and child abuse and pedophile predators and murder . . . .

What I think of is sin is a package deal. If you can do one, you can do another. So, attacking one sin in its outward form does not take care of the root problem of how people do not know how to love.

So, sure we might have some effect on racism, but ones of different races could still discriminate about beauty so they don't know how to love. And ones would discriminate about who needs correction, naturally pointing at someone else!

And what can be happening is ones are attacking how the problem is keeping them from getting their own selfish way, often enough.

Also, what can be happening is racism is more popular to attack, especially if we can make it seem like we ourselves are not the racists, right????

And what about discrimination against the unborn? The unborn are even being killed, by ones who claim not to be discriminators. Pointing at racism can be a method of deflection to keep attention away from discrimination against unborn Americans. More unborn are being killed, than are ones of racial minorities.

So, yes racism is wrong, and it needs to be called out, along with other murderous things. The Bible says if a person hates, the person is a murderer > 1 John 3:15. So, God's word already calls this out. But we need to deal with everything.

 

[Ken-1122]

The linked article included his comments.

Trump didn't even mention race; his comments though offensive were not racist.

 

[ViaCrucis]

This pastor says that it is. And he calls out church leaders to label it as a sin.

Who Will Call Out the President's Racism?

Should national leaders be called out on their sins even if they are believed to support 'Christianity'? Or should only only national leaders who are believed to not support Christianity be called out on their sins?

Should the party who called out Bill Clinton for marital infidelity also call out Donald Trump for racism?? Within the realm of morals and ethics is there any reason why anyone should believe Christians have either morals or ethics?

Yes, racism is sinful.
Yes, when public individuals publicly advocate evil they should be called out for it.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Strathos]

Trump didn't even mention race; his comments though offensive were not racist.

Telling a member of an ethnic minority to go back to their own country, despite the fact that they were born in the USA, seems very racist to me.

 

[Ken-1122]

Telling a member of an ethnic minority to go back to their own country, despite the fact that they were born in the USA, seems very racist to me.

No that is not racist. Racism is an insult to one's race, not country of origin.

 

[zephcom]

No that is not racist. Racism is an insult to one's race, not country of origin.

And when their country of origin is America?

No amount of waffling on this one will wash the stain of sin off of it.

 

[Invalidusername]

Telling a member of an ethnic minority to go back to their own country, despite the fact that they were born in the USA, seems very racist to me.

Seems like you don't understand true racism.

Racism is when you discriminate against a specific race.

He simply told a group of immigrants that if they hate our country and how things are done here to simply go back to their own country. This is not discriminating against anyone but rather stating a fact.

Discrimination would be refusing to hire anyone of a specific race or giving them lower pay because of their race. There are many more examples but Trump does none of those.

True racism has nothing to do with hurtful words and more to do with actions.