Is Michael Jackson A Good Role Model

[Zippythepinhead]

With all the publicity surrounding the Jacko trial, is the King of Pop a good role model or does he represent all that is wrong with celebreties these days?

 

[Antoninus Verus]

With all the publicity surrounding the Jacko trial, is the King of Pop a good role model or does he represent all that is wrong with celebreties these days?

Jackson is messed up. Period and end of story. Theres no getting around that and hes definately not someone Id want my kids looking up to.

I watched a thing they did about him on Court TV and they had a bit in there from the officer in charge of the case and he was talking about Jackson's bedroom and how you couldnt get within 20 feet of the bedroom without little silent alarms going off in the bedroom and doors shutting. Now that....aside from being slightly paranoid is a little suspicious. Yes I know hes a star and all that but still....

The man is downright creepy, theres no getting around that.

 

[hernyaccent]

He represents someone who doesn't meet up to societies standards of what a person should be. I don't know is anyone really makes a good role model but I know he has inspired a lot of people.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

He represents someone who doesn't meet up to societies standards of what a person should be. I don't know is anyone really makes a good role model but I know he has inspired a lot of people.

I hear ya, but...
I'm more concerned about the 'lot of people' that may have been scared. If I inspire a million people and cause grave harm to a handful due to deviant abuse, is that moral?

 

[dkara]

I hear ya, but...
I'm more concerned about the 'lot of people' that may have been scared. If I inspire a million people and cause grave harm to a handful due to deviant abuse, is that moral?

**What does he inspire in a million folks? Possibly that a small boy from a working class family can make it big? If so then they aspire and are inspired by money, fame, and the "I wanna be a star..." syndrome.

MJ had a chance to be a good role model. He could have modeled how a kid from a really disfunctional family--uses his money for therapy and overcomes. He didn't. He hasn't.

And it's too bad because at one time he was brilliant and talanted [Off the Wall]. But now I'm afraid his star-persona has overtaken his authentic self and he's fallen into the 'entitlement theme.'

If he models anything it's how you can have so many advantages and still shoot yourself in the foot.

 

[Anduril]

Jackson is messed up. Period and end of story. Theres no getting around that and hes definately not someone Id want my kids looking up to.

I watched a thing they did about him on Court TV and they had a bit in there from the officer in charge of the case and he was talking about Jackson's bedroom and how you couldnt get within 20 feet of the bedroom without little silent alarms going off in the bedroom and doors shutting. Now that....aside from being slightly paranoid is a little suspicious. Yes I know hes a star and all that but still....

The man is downright creepy, theres no getting around that.

I watched a similar report that talked about his bedroom. It's full of stuffed toys like a 5 year olds, and he has a large painting on the wall of Jesus with His disciples at the last supper, only it has Jacko inserted in the place of Jesus!

Somehow I don't think he's a good role model.

 

[Doppelganger]

The man is a freak of nature and should be in a circus side show.

Note that I say this because he did it to himself. He was not happy with his true appearance and altered it to the ghastly face we see today.

 

[Dennis Moore]

Jackson is emotionally and psychologically scarred. It's obvious that he's living out some twisted version of the childhood he never had. I'm not sure how the pedophilia fits into it all. It's not his fault (it would seem to be connected to his lack of a real childhood, and poor parenting), but sadly, he's the one stuck dealing with it.

Is he a good role model? No. I mean, look at the obsessive plastic surgery alone! I don't want my kid mimicing that. Jackson's nose is just creepy; it's not even really there anymore. Add on top of that the eccentric lifestyle, the parinoid xenophobia, the child sex allegations, and the fact that he hasn't released a really great album since Thriller ... no, not a good role model. IMO, of course.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

You know, I don't know if he is or isn't guilty. Probability would say yes he is, but our system isn't geared to find guilt on probabilities - thank God. And in a reasonable defense: being different is not a crime.

That being said, it shows that a practice of accountability and safeguarding one's integrity beyond dispute has merits beyond value. The stuff that is being reveal not only does not show actions that reflect accountability, but just the opposite - one of secrecy and isolation/non-accountability. That doesn't help him.

 

[meebs]

With all the publicity surrounding the Jacko trial, is the King of Pop a good role model

No way

or does he represent all that is wrong with celebreties these days?

no, he is unique i will tell you that!

I feel sorry for him. Its hard to say that with all the stuff that is against him, but he is so screwed up! He has messed his life and his face up. But i feel bad for him.

 

[Dennis Moore]

The stuff that is being reveal not only does not show actions that reflect accountability, but just the opposite - one of secrecy and isolation/non-accountability.

In fact, I generally look at Jackson as someone who SHOULD have beeen stopped at some point--through intervention, counselling, maybe even incarceration in a psych ward. But he was rich enough, powerful enough, and influential enough to stop any of that from happening. He's a perfect example of unchecked psychological self-destructive behavior brought to an extreme. One wonders if he's any happier today than he was twenty years ago. Probably not; that sort of behavior doesn't lead to happiness, just self-destruction.

 

[Clem is Me]

As always the real question is why do we all know so much about a dancer?

 

[Zippythepinhead]

You know, I don't know if he is or isn't guilty. Probability would say yes he is, but our system isn't geared to find guilt on probabilities - thank God. And in a reasonable defense: being different is not a crime.

That being said, it shows that a practice of accountability and safeguarding one's integrity beyond dispute has merits beyond value. The stuff that is being reveal not only does not show actions that reflect accountability, but just the opposite - one of secrecy and isolation/non-accountability. That doesn't help him.

Plus I have that burning image in my mind with him dangling his kid over the balcony in Berlin to screaming fans. Now that in and of itself is wierd, but with two allegations of sex abuse against him. It begs the question that things are not in his favor.

 

[hernyaccent]

I hear ya, but...
I'm more concerned about the 'lot of people' that may have been scared. If I inspire a million people and cause grave harm to a handful due to deviant abuse, is that moral?

I believe in this country...you are innoscent until proven guilty.

 

[Zippythepinhead]

I believe in this country...you are innoscent until proven guilty.

I agree. But the Constitution does not determine guilt or innocence in the court of public opinion. He still has some "'splainin to do Lucy"!

 

[hernyaccent]

I agree. But the Constitution does not determine guilt or innocence in the court of public opinion. He still has some "'splainin to do Lucy"!

I don't think he has an explainging to do to the public if he is found innoscent. His true fans are loyal to him through this and after this and he shouldn't give a rats butt about what anyone has to say.

 

[kdet]

In fact, I generally look at Jackson as someone who SHOULD have beeen stopped at some point--through intervention, counselling, maybe even incarceration in a psych ward. But he was rich enough, powerful enough, and influential enough to stop any of that from happening. He's a perfect example of unchecked psychological self-destructive behavior brought to an extreme. One wonders if he's any happier today than he was twenty years ago. Probably not; that sort of behavior doesn't lead to happiness, just self-destruction.

I agree, I feel a lot of people are responsible for Michael's actions along with Michael, his family, the people close to him, the people that enabled him to do the perverse things he did, including the parent's of these children.

 

[Clem is Me]

Again, why do we care?

 

[Antoninus Verus]

Again, why do we care?

Who knows, I say lock him up, hes too frakking messed up to be in the gene pool.

I would PAY to see Mike in prison, how he would handle that. THAT would be comedy folks

 

[Dennis Moore]

Who knows, I say lock him up, hes too frakking messed up to be in the gene pool.

As he's already spawned, I'm afraid he is in the gene pool.