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<blockquote data-quote="dayhiker" data-source="post: 64876825" data-attributes="member: 162640"><p><span style="font-size: 12px">I think all the above comments on the story of Onan miss what the story is telling us.</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> <span style="font-size: 12px">Onan was the second son of Judah. After his older brother Er died, Onan was required by the tradition of levirate marriage to marry Er's widow Tamar. According to Gen.38:7-10, when he had sexual intercourse with Tamar he "spilt his seed upon the ground" because the resulting child would be considered his late brother's, not his. In response to the transgression of disobedience, God killed Onan.</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> <span style="font-size: 12px">Its my understanding that a brother couldn&#8217;t be forced to fulfill the levirate marriage rule. But once he agreed its was his obligation to raise up the widows children to carry on his brothers name. Doing that meant that they would get the inheritance. Since Onan was the 2</span><span style="font-size: 12px">nd</span><span style="font-size: 12px"> brother he would gett a very small inheritance compared to the Er the 1</span><span style="font-size: 12px">st</span><span style="font-size: 12px"> born. The father had the final say in everything the family did including the extended family. This was even more important than the land and flocks the 1</span><span style="font-size: 12px">st</span><span style="font-size: 12px"> born would also receive. Now when Er died, Onan moves up tp get the 1</span><span style="font-size: 12px">st</span><span style="font-size: 12px"> born's inheritance. But if he fulfills the levirate, while he will get the 1</span><span style="font-size: 12px">st</span><span style="font-size: 12px"> born blessing his kids wouldn&#8217;t get it as it will go the Er&#8217;s sons that he raise up thru Tamar. So I see the main violation that God kills Onan for is promising to raise up Er an heir, but then stealing it for Er's son by not getting her pregnant. Spilling his seed on the ground is the way he used to appear to be going in unto his brother&#8217;s wife to have children and to fulfilling his obligation, the commitment he made to raise up his brothers children, when in reality he was stealing the inheritance for his own sons.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dayhiker, post: 64876825, member: 162640"] [SIZE=3]I think all the above comments on the story of Onan miss what the story is telling us.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Onan was the second son of Judah. After his older brother Er died, Onan was required by the tradition of levirate marriage to marry Er's widow Tamar. According to Gen.38:7-10, when he had sexual intercourse with Tamar he "spilt his seed upon the ground" because the resulting child would be considered his late brother's, not his. In response to the transgression of disobedience, God killed Onan.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Its my understanding that a brother couldn’t be forced to fulfill the levirate marriage rule. But once he agreed its was his obligation to raise up the widows children to carry on his brothers name. Doing that meant that they would get the inheritance. Since Onan was the 2[/SIZE][SIZE=3]nd[/SIZE][SIZE=3] brother he would gett a very small inheritance compared to the Er the 1[/SIZE][SIZE=3]st[/SIZE][SIZE=3] born. The father had the final say in everything the family did including the extended family. This was even more important than the land and flocks the 1[/SIZE][SIZE=3]st[/SIZE][SIZE=3] born would also receive. Now when Er died, Onan moves up tp get the 1[/SIZE][SIZE=3]st[/SIZE][SIZE=3] born's inheritance. But if he fulfills the levirate, while he will get the 1[/SIZE][SIZE=3]st[/SIZE][SIZE=3] born blessing his kids wouldn’t get it as it will go the Er’s sons that he raise up thru Tamar. So I see the main violation that God kills Onan for is promising to raise up Er an heir, but then stealing it for Er's son by not getting her pregnant. Spilling his seed on the ground is the way he used to appear to be going in unto his brother’s wife to have children and to fulfilling his obligation, the commitment he made to raise up his brothers children, when in reality he was stealing the inheritance for his own sons.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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