CounselorForChrist
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I feel like this topic is going in loops. And that quote is what confuses christians because what one christians thinks, they assume its how all christians think. What I am trying to say is if you need sinful sexual pleasure to MB, then thats you. It doesn't mean everyone else needs it. Just like if someone yells at you want to literally kill them, thats you, not everyone else.One cannot touch without sinful sexual pleasure.
Lets talk about what leads to MB. Arousal. What leads to arousal? Well this is where you quote is wrong. Arousal can happen by just more then sinful sexual pleasure. You can stimulate it with your hands. Your silk boxers might stimulate it. Even getting into a deep sleep causes an arousal.
Now lets look at what happens after arousal. MB. Can you MB without looking at sinful sexual things? Yes. Both sexes can do it. Its just a sensitive part of your body that can be used. Its not like it "sees" sinful things and say "Well I can only MB because of that!".
Now lets just pretend MB is a sin as you say. What does that mean for the person that has an [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] in their sleep... a "wet dream". Did they sin? Did they MB? How would it even be sin if they weren't even realizing they were doing it? Heres comes the big one. I am married. If my wife and I MB, is it still a sin? If not then how come? MB is a sin yes? Thats where saying MB is a sin becomes a clouded subject.
The truth is getting aroused is not sinful. MB is not sinful. Its what you "choose" to when MB that makes it sinful. If you choose to look at porn, think of someone...etc. Then your sinning. If you instead choose just to MB and not really think of anything except for the feeling of MB then its not a sin.
If you feel convicted of even that being a sin, then its what God is telling you is a sin based on what He knows about you. Where as for others they may not be told its a sin because He feels they are for lack of better words "mature" enough about it to not turn it into a sin. MB can become a sin also if someone turns it into an idol or if they choose MB more then they choose having sex with their spouse.
So thats my view on it. There is literally nothing in the bible that says its a sin or that its not a sin. Its a grey area. Which is why conviction will tell if its a sin for you.
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