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I don't know if this was directed at what I posted or not, but I think probably not. I offered the scripture that I did to make almost the same point I think. If we set our minds on spiritual things we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Aim for God and try not to miss. Ultimately though, the answer to the question of whether or not it's a sin is between God and the person asking isn't it? I couldn't find any scriptures other than the one I posted to make a judgement on it. (Personally, I think if a person asks God about it with a sincere heart, they will come away knowing God does not accept such a practice as holy). IMHO anyway.SarahAblaze06 said:oh my. well you can argue that the word "masturbation" isnt in the bible-- there are also alot of other words taht arent in the bible "pornography", "molestation" the list goes on, but does that make those things any less wrong? - it's not about how far close to the edge we can get, but how high our goal of holiness is. i'm not saying anyone is perfect, we all have our temptations and downfalls, but it is the ones who fight the temptations of the flesh who will gain the spiritual benefits. even Jesus had temptations... but he quoted the word and stood his ground. i think we should aim for that same kind of holiness.
Ultimately though, the answer to the question of whether or not it's a sin is between God and the person asking isn't it?
Your question cannot be answered. Relative to what? Only God is sinless. Who is it who judges what is perfection and what is sin, but He who knows no sin? How could one rotten apple turn to another rotten apple and tell it that it is sinful because it is rotten on the wrong side?Rising_Suns said:Do you believe sin is relative?
you could have just said no.Asaph said:Your question cannot be answered. Relative to what? Only God is sinless. Who is it who judges what is perfection and what is sin, but He who knows no sin? How could one rotten apple turn to another rotten apple and tell it that it is sinful because it is rotten on the wrong side?
All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. So who are we to judge another's servant?
Or did I read too much into your question?...LOL If so, I apologize.
Asaph
You are absolutely correct, that's why I apologized just in case...LOLRising_Suns said:you could have just said no.
As in the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, or the Pride of life?MusicMelOU said:Yes, I think it is because it is driven by lust, which is said to be impure in the Bible.
and it should also be said that it's not just lust in the sexual sense, but anything that consumes a persons desire and takes one's focus off of God, can be lust; masturbation being the prime candidate.MusicMelOU said:Yes, I think it is because it is driven by lust, which is said to be impure in the Bible.
Hi[HopeTheyDance]I have wondered about this myself - but my conclusion is - it is still immoral as you are using images of your wife - and not your wife. Could you do this and pray right afterwards for God to bless you marraige?
Note that I am not calling you a sinner - I understand this is a struggle - but it would not be a struggle for humankind to resist such temptations to please themselves, if it wasn't infact sinful. KWIM?
Admiring someone's good looks is quite different from lusting. I can look at a very beautiful woman and admire her beauty and there is nothing wrong with it. When I start to think how nice it would be to...that's when it starts getting lustful.sykotick said:o, and if its a sin to look at a really pretty girl (not talking about masturbation here) then how do u know who you like? If it is a sin to look at your b/f or g/f and to say that they are very pretty, beautifull, or to look at someone that you want to ask out, then making every bodly look different would really have been pointless right? now im not trying to offend in any way, i just want to get the facts straghit.
I would say that is still lust.Duggie said:If my wife is away for a few days on a work related course and I am missing her, physically, and I then commit the act of masturbation whilst totally focusing on my wife how is that even remotely sinful?
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