I know God is all for sex in marriage. But what about taking care of business yourself?
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Masturbation is self fullfillment, pure and simple, and as such it is directly opposed to a biblical view od sexual satisfaction which is built around a mutually beneficial realtionship. So yes it is a sin and perhaps more Christains need to take the time to understand that marriage is about giving rather then taking as modern society suggests![]()
In the sexual sense, giving what? Pleasure? By that reasoning, there must also be someone receiving it and enjoying it. Thus, they are technically "taking it".
You know, I've wondered individuals who cannot find a person in which to marry, for any variety of reasons, and yet they are supposed to act as though the natural urges that God put inside of us don't exist?
I don't know of any unmarried man who in the long term has been able to keep himself from masturbating.
It's as if God gave people this urge, but engaging in acts which this urge has created are sinful.
What's the purpose of this urge, if one is unable to have a mate.
I realize that the urge lessens with age, due to hormonal factors, but it seems to me as one seeking to perform a bodily action, much the same way as one has an urge to drink or eat.
I understand the lusting thing, but the urge is merged with the lusting thing, by and large.
One of those subjects that has been beat to death on Christian websites. The fact remains no matter how hard you try it is not addressed anywhere in Scripture.
If one lusts while doing it then it is the lust that is sinful not the act.
revrobor said:One of those subjects that has been beat to death on Christian websites. The fact remains no matter how hard you try it is not addressed anywhere in Scripture. If one lusts while doing it then it is the lust that is sinful not the act.
I am sorry I have to disagree most strongly - the subject might not be dealt with directly and graphically as we do today - however it is dealt with in the bible. For example turning to 1 Cor 7 we read;
1 Corinthians 7:2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.(1Co 7:2 NKJ)
Now notice carefully what Paul is saying. He begins by explaining that the way to avoid fornication is to be married - so by implication any sort of sexual gratification outside of the union is fornication. hence masturbation is fornication and fornication is sin - the type of sin we read the church was to avoid (Acts 15:29).
Paul moves on and in v3 he explains that the husband is to satisfy the wife and the wife is to satisfy the husband in this realtion. No permission is granted for either to satisfy themselves.
V4 explains why - neither partner has authority over their own body in this matter. I don't think Paul could have said any more clearly, but yet also delicately at the same time. We do not have a right to treat our own bodies in this fashion and merely seek personal fullfillment!
In v5 we see the final nail in the coffin - especially for males. This verse forbids one partner refusing the other satisfaction. Sex is not about selfish self fullfillment - it is about giving the other person what they need. Now how can we do that if we haqve just satisfied ourselves!
So yes the subject is dealt with in scripture, we could look further, we could look at the need to be christlike for example, and ask if he needed such things? If not, why do we? We can look at everything positive the word of God teaches about the union of husband and wife and see that no other human realtionship is honoured like this relationship is! That it pitcures the relationship between Christ and his church - does the God who gave us everything, what us to keep something back from our wives for himself?
And here you assume that one can seperate lust from the act? My friend, if there is no lust why is the act needed in the first place? At the very least the person desire the endorphin rush that an [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] produces. Like an addict lusts for their next fix it is an addiction that creates a lust even if one wasn't present at the beginning!
Genesis Chapter 38
9. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
Question
Can anyone fully explain why Onan was killed?
Genesis Chapter 38
9. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
Question
Can anyone fully explain why Onan was killed?
Genesis Chapter 38
9. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
Question
Can anyone fully explain why Onan was killed?