Is lust a grave matter (i.e mortal sin)? I know that adultery is, but what about adultery of the heart? And does looking constitute lust, or does it only lead to lust? Thank you very much in advance!
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Is lust a grave matter?
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Benedicta00
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Lust is not merely looking or being tempted to look.
It's viewing a person as just a object put here for your pleasure, for you to use. Yes it can be a mortal sin.
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The good news is that Jesus is always ready to forgive all of our sins; all we have to do is ask to be forgiven. If you are having trouble with sins of lust, I would recommend sacramental confession as a remedy.
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Yes lust is a grave matter. As any priest & consult Scripture as well as the Catechism.
Yes lust is a grave matter. As any priest & consult Scripture as well as the Catechism.
James 4:1 - What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you?
James 4:2 - You want something but don't get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God.
James 4:3 - When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
James 4:4 - You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred towards God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
James 1:13 - When tempted, no-one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone.
Matthew 5:27 - "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'"
Matthew 5:28 - But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Proverbs 6:25 - Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes.
1 Peter 2:11 - Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul.
Titus 3:3 - At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another.
Titus 3:4 - But when the kindness and love of God our Saviour appeared
Titus 3:5 - He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and revival by the Holy Spirit.
James 4:2 - You want something but don't get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God.
James 4:3 - When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
James 4:4 - You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred towards God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
James 1:13 - When tempted, no-one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone.
Matthew 5:27 - "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'"
Matthew 5:28 - But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Proverbs 6:25 - Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes.
1 Peter 2:11 - Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul.
Titus 3:3 - At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another.
Titus 3:4 - But when the kindness and love of God our Saviour appeared
Titus 3:5 - He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and revival by the Holy Spirit.
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From the CCC-
PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST
SECTION TWO
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
CHAPTER TWO
"YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF"
ARTICLE 9
THE NINTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbor's.299 Every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.300
2514 St. John distinguishes three kinds of covetousness or concupiscence: lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life.301 In the Catholic catechetical tradition, the ninth commandment forbids carnal concupiscence; the tenth forbids coveting another's goods.
2515 Etymologically, "concupiscence" can refer to any intense form of human desire. Christian theology has given it a particular meaning: the movement of the sensitive appetite contrary to the operation of the human reason. The apostle St. Paul identifies it with the rebellion of the "flesh" against the "spirit."302 Concupiscence stems from the disobedience of the first sin. It unsettles man's moral faculties and, without being in itself an offense, inclines man to commit sins.303
2516 Because man is a composite being, spirit and body, there already exists a certain tension in him; a certain struggle of tendencies between "spirit" and "flesh" develops. But in fact this struggle belongs to the heritage of sin. It is a consequence of sin and at the same time a confirmation of it. It is part of the daily experience of the spiritual battle:
For the Apostle it is not a matter of despising and condemning the body which with the spiritual soul constitutes man's nature and personal subjectivity. Rather, he is concerned with the morally good or bad works, or better, the permanent dispositions - virtues and vices - which are the fruit of submission (in the first case) or of resistance (in the second case) to the saving action of the Holy Spirit. For this reason the Apostle writes: "If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit."304
I. PURIFICATION OF THE HEART
Continued- http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a9.htm
PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST
SECTION TWO
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
CHAPTER TWO
"YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF"
ARTICLE 9
THE NINTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbor's.299 Every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.300
2514 St. John distinguishes three kinds of covetousness or concupiscence: lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life.301 In the Catholic catechetical tradition, the ninth commandment forbids carnal concupiscence; the tenth forbids coveting another's goods.
2515 Etymologically, "concupiscence" can refer to any intense form of human desire. Christian theology has given it a particular meaning: the movement of the sensitive appetite contrary to the operation of the human reason. The apostle St. Paul identifies it with the rebellion of the "flesh" against the "spirit."302 Concupiscence stems from the disobedience of the first sin. It unsettles man's moral faculties and, without being in itself an offense, inclines man to commit sins.303
2516 Because man is a composite being, spirit and body, there already exists a certain tension in him; a certain struggle of tendencies between "spirit" and "flesh" develops. But in fact this struggle belongs to the heritage of sin. It is a consequence of sin and at the same time a confirmation of it. It is part of the daily experience of the spiritual battle:
For the Apostle it is not a matter of despising and condemning the body which with the spiritual soul constitutes man's nature and personal subjectivity. Rather, he is concerned with the morally good or bad works, or better, the permanent dispositions - virtues and vices - which are the fruit of submission (in the first case) or of resistance (in the second case) to the saving action of the Holy Spirit. For this reason the Apostle writes: "If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit."304
I. PURIFICATION OF THE HEART
Continued- http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a9.htm
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But thats not what lust is.
Lust is the deep desire to have a person for the sake of one's own pleasure, and you would act on that desire if you were given the chance.
Its the extension of the ego onto the other person, where there is no regard for the good of that person, only one's own pleasure.
Those who do not control lust, will eventually fall into grave sin.
Jim
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This is a tough one to answer since when admiring a woman's beauty, at which point does it become lust ? Especially, the way that women dress these days, there is little left to the imagination. I would say this; that while admiring a person's beauty, and impure thoughts pop into one's mind, if we ignore this temptation and look away, it is not a sin at all, but if we dwell on the temptation then it becomes a sin of lust. According to the Bible, lust is one of the capital sins, so yes it is a mortal sin which needs to be taken away in the confessional.
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Other men are going to know what I'm writing about here but there are women that I call "Concrete Block Women." What that means is that when you see her it's like being hit over the head by a concrete block. You are completely unconscious to anything and everything around you but her. There could be a huge fight going on right next to you and you wouldn't even notice it. It's not just a physical attraction it's something more. It's very hard to put into words or explain and it happens very infrequently. My point is that some consider that to be lust. If it is then most men that aren't asexual or haven't hit puberty yet are going to be in big trouble when they face their judgement. When you question somebody that has such a very broad definition of lust and considers more or less any physical attraction to fall under that they really do have a hard time making that definition stick without condemning sex and sexual attraction in the first place. But maybe that's what they intend to do.
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If your eye gives you trouble, better to cut it out than to go into hell. [unquenchable fire]
IE - lusting so much [like watching porn] can and will cause you to go to hell. Or lusting and undressing someone with your eyes.
And why is an old thread tossed back up?
IE - lusting so much [like watching porn] can and will cause you to go to hell. Or lusting and undressing someone with your eyes.
And why is an old thread tossed back up?
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