I think it is great that you are conversing with your father anyway.I'm curious as to why you want to "convince" your father that Jesus is a good role model when you already know that he's an atheist?
Why is he flipping over a drumkit?He was for the most part, yeah...
According to some news reports, Pope Francis used to work as a bouncer before he became a priest.One tends to do that when making a joke.
Not necessarily.Whether you think Jesus was a good role model really depends on where you're coming from. For the atheist, who doesn't believe that Jesus is God, Jesus would be a horrible role model because in their eyes He was a pathological liar, a lunatic, and/or a hypocrite....
Well, assuming He was God, He was a good role model because that's what He taught of Himself. If He was not God, he was not a good role model because He was delusional and/or lying.Not necessarily.
He came up in a culture that was thick with gods and the supernatural. It was simply the water he swam in. No blame for that.
Like I already said:Well, assuming He was God, He was a good role model because that's what He taught of Himself. If He was not God, he was not a good role model because He was delusional and/or lying.
Yes I read what you said. We simply disagree.Like I already said:
You dont get blame for being born into the culture.
God/gods/etc was how the 'world' worked.
No blame for your situation.
Now, if he was really lying. Thats a different story.
So you cannot see any alternatives to either:Yes I read what you said. We simply disagree.
I think it is great that you are conversing with your father anyway.
Apparently, by worldly standards, a case can be made against Jesus as a role model. As seen in previous posts, He did some things that might not be consistent with the values of many people today. He also said and did things that were not consistent with the values of many people of his own time.
Be that as it may, I think He is the best role model for too many reasons to explain in this post, but here are a few stories that illustrate what He stood for and I admire Him for.
He saves the Disciples who are in fear of drowning (Luke 8:22-25). He stands up to the bloodthirsty mob that is going to stone the adulterous woman (John 7:53-8:11). He protects the disciples from the violent legion when He is taken in the Garden (John 18:8).
I hope that helps.
Right.Luke 10:38-42 shows me how Jesus did not only want to use women to serve Him. He even stood up for Mary who stayed with Jesus instead of just being busy serving Him while He was their guest.
Jesus wants personal sharing with us, more than to only use us. So, this is a good love role model example, I think. We should not only use people, but love each and every one personally. Jesus was personal with people.
I think it is rather the other way around.Jesus was on a mission, and there needs be recognition of the apostles' role modelling and instruction to commoners like in Corinthians, when you are single, you must serve God, when you marry, you serve your spouse, and together honour God.
Jesus was perfect, compassionate, just, merciful, wise, loving...
He was for the most part, yeah...
Greetings friends.
Me and my dad were discussing this question the other night.
Me being a christian, and he being a atheist made it a interesting discussion.
I really wish to convince him that Jesus is a good role model, but we did not get out chance to finish. I am asking for inputs from you guys, so that I could be more prepared for the next time it comes up.
Everyone has their own perceptions, but the questions I have been asking myself are following:
-What is a role model? Do we need them or should we only listen to ourselves?
-What did Jesus stand for that can be admired by others?
-My dad claimed that Jesus did "some things" that werent consistent with today values.. What do you think of this? Of course, he did not give any concrete examples, so I do not know what he meant by saying so..
-People that have been inspired by Jesus. (Example: Martin Luther King jr. stood up against the majority in the USA such as Jesus stood up against the pharisees.) Can you think of anyone else?
-A story I showed my dad was the Parable of the Good Samaritan. I really think this is a good story that gives a good picture of who Jesus was. I am trying to find good stories like this one from the bible that shows how Jesus was tolerant, brave and a good role model. Could anyone recomend something?
Every answer is appreciated very much and I hope we can create a good discussion out of this
Have a nice day everyone. Best regards.
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