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Most people who are homeless tend to find means to wash up every once in a while. The whole dirty sock, haven't shaved in a month thing is 'old homeless'. The 'new homeless' has slightly more opportunities. It doesn't mean they don't need charity, nonetheless.
Also, did you know that's a Wiccan pentagram under that cross on your signature? Just giving you the heads up
http://theunaustralian.net/2015/10/...d-turning-back-boats-off-englands-coast-line/Mr Abbott used his speech to condemn the scourge of people fleeing war torn countries, insisting: “We must be careful of misguided altruism, as any altruism will misguide us from the path of ignoring the suffering of others for our own personal gain".
I think we have a moral obligation to ignore "beggars."
Scripture says those who will not work should go hungry. I don't have a problem with that. Second, you really know nothing about the beggar, whether he's just found an easy way to make tax-free money or if he's really in need. Third, by giving them money, you encourage people to engage in that shameless lifestyle, and that degrades the quality of all our lives, unless you enjoy seeing people beg for money.
We live in a welfare nation, where all poor people qualify for debit cards to buy food. We live in a nation where all poor people get free medical care. We live in a nation were all disabled people qualify for monthly government checks. We live in a nation where "poor" women with children get more free money than most hardworking Americans are able to earn.
So, why are you giving that bum money?
If you really want to help those in need, look for charities that serve the homeless. If you really want to help, visit the lonely. If you really want to help, be ready to do the little things when someone is in momentary need, like when someone's car needs a jump start. If you really want to help, ask your church what you can do.
This.I think it is wrong to ignore them. They are people and deserve acknowledgment. Even if you can't/don't give them any money, you can say, 'no, sorry', or give them a referral to a shelter. If you don't want to give cash, but believe they really do need help, how about taking them to lunch/dinner? I've actually done this, and it's been appreciated. Can you imagine how dehumanizing it must feel to stand and be ignored most of the day? I would get so depressed.
I think we have a moral obligation to ignore "beggars."
Scripture says those who will not work should go hungry. I don't have a problem with that. Second, you really know nothing about the beggar, whether he's just found an easy way to make tax-free money or if he's really in need. Third, by giving them money, you encourage people to engage in that shameless lifestyle, and that degrades the quality of all our lives, unless you enjoy seeing people beg for money.
We live in a welfare nation, where all poor people qualify for debit cards to buy food. We live in a nation where all poor people get free medical care. We live in a nation were all disabled people qualify for monthly government checks. We live in a nation where "poor" women with children get more free money than most hardworking Americans are able to earn.
So, why are you giving that bum money?
If you really want to help those in need, look for charities that serve the homeless. If you really want to help, visit the lonely. If you really want to help, be ready to do the little things when someone is in momentary need, like when someone's car needs a jump start. If you really want to help, ask your church what you can do.
I think that there is s big difference between one or two rogues in suits begging and the majority of homeless.
If you don't want to give: don't. Rationalising your choice on a website seems pointless.
I think it is wrong to ignore them. They are people and deserve acknowledgment. Even if you can't/don't give them any money, you can say, 'no, sorry', or give them a referral to a shelter. If you don't want to give cash, but believe they really do need help, how about taking them to lunch/dinner? I've actually done this, and it's been appreciated. Can you imagine how dehumanizing it must feel to stand and be ignored most of the day? I would get so depressed.
While what you say has merit, Jesus told us to help those who need help, and He didn't say...''only if they meet your standards as to who needs help...''
I dunno...Jesus gave up His life for you and me. And we were undeserving.I go by God's standard, "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
Or, "No widow may be put on the list of widows [to be helped] unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband and is well known for her good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the feet of the Lord’s people, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of good deeds." (BTW, 60 back then is like 80 today) That chapter also says that if that old godly widow has family, the family should help her, not the church. That was back before there was Social Security and other programs to take care of the needy (which, seems to me, fill the role of family).
Do you know of a time Jesus ever gave money to anyone poor? I don't. I remember a time when a son of Hell, Judas, told Jesus to give money to the poor and Jesus rebuked him. (Judas wanted to keep the money for himself, but he tried to cover his wickedness with a pretense of charity.)
Maybe its you who is making up your own standards? There's nothing Christian about being a doormat or about being an enabler of immorality, sloth and other causes of poverty. Most Christians giving to charity, out of their excess, cause more harm than good, what an abominable misuse of money and is wicked self-righteousness.
Yes, Christians should be kind and help he needy. But, you need to exercise some righteous discernment about who really is deserving of your aid. And, that's not the panhandler at the street corner, unless you want to volunteer to take him to homeless shelter or to a government office to get a food debit card, which I don't recommend for your safety (but, he'd decline your offer, anyway). Its also not the big charity that will spend 90% of your donation on itself and the remaining 10% on people who don't really need it.
Our society is rich. Your time is needed more than your money. Are you going to volunteer your time?
The pentagram has also been used as a Christian symbol.Also, did you know that's a Wiccan pentagram under that cross on your signature? Just giving you the heads up
This is a complex website. This particular forum is for debate, but there are others here which are for fellowship.Oh my is this a website, I wish someone would have told me sooner, I thought this was a place for fellowship, silly me!
Curious. How much money did Jesus have?....Do you know of a time Jesus ever gave money to anyone poor? I don't.....
I go by God's standard, "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
Or, "No widow may be put on the list of widows [to be helped] unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband and is well known for her good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the feet of the Lord’s people, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of good deeds." (BTW, 60 back then is like 80 today) That chapter also says that if that old godly widow has family, the family should help her, not the church. That was back before there was Social Security and other programs to take care of the needy (which, seems to me, fill the role of family).
Do you know of a time Jesus ever gave money to anyone poor? I don't. I remember a time when a son of Hell, Judas, told Jesus to give money to the poor and Jesus rebuked him. (Judas wanted to keep the money for himself, but he tried to cover his wickedness with a pretense of charity.)
Maybe its you who is making up your own standards? There's nothing Christian about being a doormat or about being an enabler of immorality, sloth and other causes of poverty. Most Christians giving to charity, out of their excess, cause more harm than good, what an abominable misuse of money and is wicked self-righteousness.
Yes, Christians should be kind and help he needy. But, you need to exercise some righteous discernment about who really is deserving of your aid. And, that's not the panhandler at the street corner, unless you want to volunteer to take him to homeless shelter or to a government office to get a food debit card, which I don't recommend for your safety (but, he'd decline your offer, anyway). Its also not the big charity that will spend 90% of your donation on itself and the remaining 10% on people who don't really need it.
Our society is rich. Your time is needed more than your money. Are you going to volunteer your time?
Curious. How much money did Jesus have?
Probably some when he worked as a carpenter. But then he stopped working.
Matthew 19:21
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
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