Is it wrong to ask God to remove a spiritual gift?

[Shadowprophet]

I know many will have questions but I've been a christian most of my life. That doesn't mean im claiming a kind of enlightenment that others don't have. I feel that some of you know that spiritual gifts are a real thing. let's say you sought a spiritual gift for a very long time. Then by the lords love it came to be that you had this gift.

If this gift came with a burden of responsibility that you didn't want. Would it be wrong to ask for this gift to be removed from you?

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

Unless the gift forces you to do something against your will. Which none of them do. Just don't use the gift and forget about it.

 

[Shadowprophet]

Unless the gift forces you to do something against your will. Which none of them do. Just don't use the gift and forget about it.

That's not really how it works, It's more like, visions and dreams of events that have not taken place yet., There are down sides. It usually concerns just close family or events that would directly effect my life.

Let me ask anyone this.. If something bad was going to happen within your family, would you want to know ahead of time? Some people would say yes. But people need to understand., This is not the kinds of things that I can change the outcome to. it's not like a movie. Things happen just as I dreamed them. and nothing will change it. I've told people in my family, and, it's to the point now that after so long even they dread my dreams..

Maybe, It's best if I don't ask to have it taken away. there is probably some reason for this. But imagine, having a normal bad dream, and wondering every time.. Was it one of those dreams....Sometimes, A person can be happier not knowing ahead of time..I'm honestly not here to convince anyone that this is legitimate, I, really don't care if people believe me or not, that's not the point. this is the largest gathering of educated Christians that I have ever taken part of, So I was hoping I might find some answers.. So to anyone that can advise me on how to deal with this. I would really appreciate it very much...I make it sound terrible. It's not. I know it is a Gift And it was given to me out of a desire to receive this gift. But. Knowing that something is going to happen to someone in my family ahead of time, it hurts sometimes.. Because, I don't want to tell family members this news. and sometimes, most times I don't..

Sometimes I feel like part of the reason I received this spiritual gift was, that if I didn't know ahead of time. I would not be able to handle the reality of something happening to a close family member without warning ahead of time. God is infinitely wise. And infinitely merciful.. There is a reason for what is transpiring. So I've decided not to ask to have it removed. But, it's a very real, sometimes, very scary, and very dreadful thing to know things of that nature ahead of time...

 

[SkyWriting]

If this gift came with a burden of responsibility that you didn't want.

It's unusual for a person to be concerned about being gifted.
Is it the gift of asking controversial questions that you have
no control over?

 

[Shadowprophet]

It's unusual for a person to be concerned about being gifted.
Is it the gift of asking controversial questions that you have
no control over?

I do tend to do that.. And it's not like I was given something that I didn't seek to attain.. I wanted this. But. It's not how I imagined it.. the things I dream about and the visions I see, they are all of things that worry me,, Things that I wish not to happen.. Not the gift itself. But here is an example,, before I lost my friend, he passed away,. I had several dreams about him. It's like its a warning system of bad things yet to come...

 

[1213]

...Let me ask anyone this.. If something bad was going to happen within your family, would you want to know ahead of time? Some people would say yes. But people need to understand., This is not the kinds of things that I can change the outcome to. it's not like a movie. Things happen just as I dreamed them. and nothing will change it. ...

Maybe it depends what will happen. I believe it may be possible to change the outcome. However, if it means, someone will die, I think that is going to happen anyway and in Christian point of view death is not an end. That is why I think death is not something that we should worry.

He said to his disciples, "Therefore I tell you, don't be anxious for your life, what you will eat, nor yet for your body, what you will wear. Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothing. Consider the ravens: they don't sow, they don't reap, they have no warehouse or barn, and God feeds them. How much more valuable are you than birds! Which of you by being anxious can add a cubit to his height? If then you aren't able to do even the least things, why are you anxious about the rest? Consider the lilies, how they grow. They don't toil, neither do they spin; yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if this is how God clothes the grass in the field, which today exists, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith? Don't seek what you will eat or what you will drink; neither be anxious. For the nations of the world seek after all of these things, but your Father knows that you need these things. But seek God's Kingdom, and all these things will be added to you.
Luke 12:22-31

There is no guarantee for tomorrow. That is why I think it is best to do today best that you can do. Tomorrows tasks are for tomorrow.

Also, what if you have misinterpreted the dream? I think in Star Wars episode 3 is great example of how dangerous dreams can be, if they are taken hastily, with wrong interpretation. In that movie Anakin Skywalker sees dream where his wife is in great pain and Anakin thinks his wife will die, if he doesn’t stop that. And to stop the death he is willing to do anything, which eventually leads to his wives death. If he would have seen the whole future, he would have done things differently, but because he saw only part and made wrong assumption, he eventually caused the death. Of course it is only movie, but I think same thing can happen in real life and dreams should be taken carefully, and not do hasty moves because of them.

It would be interesting to know, what happens in that your dream, because even if it may be unpleasant, it may also give something good that causes good things, even though something bad can also happen. Often many things have multiple sides that can be beneficial, even though some result is not very good. Most negative matters can be seen also from positive point of view or there can be seen useful things that cause more good than bad.

For example, if I would know someone who is important for me dies tomorrow, it would give me chance to be with him at the last moment, when otherwise I would not see him before his death.

Knowledge is always good, if you use it for good purposes.

 

[Shodan]

You can pray for anything you want, and Christ encourages us to do so.

It is perfectly OK to pray that the Lord removes a burden from you - "lead us not into temptation".

There is no reason and no advantage to trying to edit your prayers to fit what you think God's answer is going to be, or should be. Pray constantly - that means both "frequently" and "with perseverance". It is the process of prayer by which God teaches us His will. And we come to rejoice in it.

In my own case, I have not prayed to be spared any gift. God in His mercy does not give me something I cannot bear. The gift of tongues, for instance - I don't want to speak in tongues. There is nothing wrong with tongues, but they are not something I am comfortable with, and I do not allow anyone to guilt me into seeking that gift.

Wisdom, faith, discernment, my daily bread - those things I pray for (and God grants my prayers). Other stuff - I ask for what I want and leave it up to the Lord. Blessed, blessed, blessed be He who gives all good things.

Regards,
Shodan

 

[Shadowprophet]

Maybe it depends what will happen. I believe it may be possible to change the outcome. However, if it means, someone will die, I think that is going to happen anyway and in Christian point of view death is not an end. That is why I think death is not something that we should worry.

He said to his disciples, "Therefore I tell you, don't be anxious for your life, what you will eat, nor yet for your body, what you will wear. Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothing. Consider the ravens: they don't sow, they don't reap, they have no warehouse or barn, and God feeds them. How much more valuable are you than birds! Which of you by being anxious can add a cubit to his height? If then you aren't able to do even the least things, why are you anxious about the rest? Consider the lilies, how they grow. They don't toil, neither do they spin; yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if this is how God clothes the grass in the field, which today exists, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith? Don't seek what you will eat or what you will drink; neither be anxious. For the nations of the world seek after all of these things, but your Father knows that you need these things. But seek God's Kingdom, and all these things will be added to you.
Luke 12:22-31

There is no guarantee for tomorrow. That is why I think it is best to do today best that you can do. Tomorrows tasks are for tomorrow.

Also, what if you have misinterpreted the dream? I think in Star Wars episode 3 is great example of how dangerous dreams can be, if they are taken hastily, with wrong interpretation. In that movie Anakin Skywalker sees dream where his wife is in great pain and Anakin thinks his wife will die, if he doesn’t stop that. And to stop the death he is willing to do anything, which eventually leads to his wives death. If he would have seen the whole future, he would have done things differently, but because he saw only part and made wrong assumption, he eventually caused the death. Of course it is only movie, but I think same thing can happen in real life and dreams should be taken carefully, and not do hasty moves because of them.

It would be interesting to know, what happens in that your dream, because even if it may be unpleasant, it may also give something good that causes good things, even though something bad can also happen. Often many things have multiple sides that can be beneficial, even though some result is not very good. Most negative matters can be seen also from positive point of view or there can be seen useful things that cause more good than bad.

For example, if I would know someone who is important for me dies tomorrow, it would give me chance to be with him at the last moment, when otherwise I would not see him before his death.

Knowledge is always good, if you use it for good purposes.

Thank you for your kind wise and understanding words, This is just what I was hoping to hear.

And thank you as well Shodan.. You have both been strength to me in an issue that I am greatly confused about.

 

[Bobinator]

I know many will have questions but I've been a christian most of my life. That doesn't mean im claiming a kind of enlightenment that others don't have. I feel that some of you know that spiritual gifts are a real thing. let's say you sought a spiritual gift for a very long time. Then by the lords love it came to be that you had this gift.

If this gift came with a burden of responsibility that you didn't want. Would it be wrong to ask for this gift to be removed from you?

I used to get a lot of prophetic dreams before that had to do with the state of the world and universal church. Many of them were so gut-wrenching and terrifying, I asked God to stop them. He did and I had regret, because I realized I'd rather receive something from the Lord than nothing at all.

I believe God knows your heart and is reasonable. If you read the Old Testament, he did negotiate with Moses on more than one occasion. In the beginning, Moses thought he wasn't good enough to speak to Pharoah and asked that his brother Aaron be appointed in his stead. God was upset but agreed to anoint Aaron as his Deputy, and accompany him to Egypt and to lead the Israelites.

I don't believe God will be upset at you if you're honest and fair. It's the fellowship that He desires most. You also need some type of anointing to serve Him. Otherwise, you're not useful to the Kingdom. God can also give you an new gift to replace the one you opted out of. I still receive dreams once in a blue moon, but not with the same frequency and intensity. He's also given me other gifts I never had before, or never knew I had. So, I still serve God in a different capacity.

In 1Corin.12 Paul describes the purposes of spiritual gifts.

 

[SkyWriting]

I do tend to do that.. And it's not like I was given something that I didn't seek to attain.. I wanted this. But. It's not how I imagined it.. the things I dream about and the visions I see, they are all of things that worry me,, Things that I wish not to happen.. Not the gift itself. But here is an example,, before I lost my friend, he passed away,. I had several dreams about him. It's like its a warning system of bad things yet to come.

You'd prefer to be blindsided and live in ignorance like everyone else?
That's a "grass is greener" situation I thinks.
My first loss was Betsy my lab partner in 7th grade.
Not in class in Monday, dead from pneumonia by Friday.
It's kind of shocking not having any warning.

 

[tucker58]

To me Shadowprophet it is an opportunity to pray (go to the Father in the name of the Son) something away or to change something into a more positive reality through prayer (go to the Father in the name of the Son). And usually it works and the experience aways brings me closer to our Lord and Savior. Like you I have had a problem with that particular gift because it is scary . But at the sametime like SkyWriting says, I would rather know and have an opportunity to go to the Father and Lord Jesus about it than to not know and not have that opportunity.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

That's not really how it works, It's more like, visions and dreams of events that have not taken place yet., There are down sides. It usually concerns just close family or events that would directly effect my life.

Let me ask anyone this.. If something bad was going to happen within your family, would you want to know ahead of time? Some people would say yes. But people need to understand., This is not the kinds of things that I can change the outcome to. it's not like a movie. Things happen just as I dreamed them. and nothing will change it. I've told people in my family, and, it's to the point now that after so long even they dread my dreams..

Maybe, It's best if I don't ask to have it taken away. there is probably some reason for this. But imagine, having a normal bad dream, and wondering every time.. Was it one of those dreams....Sometimes, A person can be happier not knowing ahead of time..I'm honestly not here to convince anyone that this is legitimate, I, really don't care if people believe me or not, that's not the point. this is the largest gathering of educated Christians that I have ever taken part of, So I was hoping I might find some answers.. So to anyone that can advise me on how to deal with this. I would really appreciate it very much...I make it sound terrible. It's not. I know it is a Gift And it was given to me out of a desire to receive this gift. But. Knowing that something is going to happen to someone in my family ahead of time, it hurts sometimes.. Because, I don't want to tell family members this news. and sometimes, most times I don't..

Sometimes I feel like part of the reason I received this spiritual gift was, that if I didn't know ahead of time. I would not be able to handle the reality of something happening to a close family member without warning ahead of time. God is infinitely wise. And infinitely merciful.. There is a reason for what is transpiring. So I've decided not to ask to have it removed. But, it's a very real, sometimes, very scary, and very dreadful thing to know things of that nature ahead of time...

Wait so every vision/dream you have comes true? Or are there times where it was a false flag? I have complete peace when it comes to not just my death but others as well. I have never lost anyone close however within the past year I've grown spiritually through knowledge of the word that I accept any and all deaths including my own or someones close. I think you need to control what you can control and accept you have a gift if the visions and dreams are completely accurate. And accept whatever God shows you in these visions and dreams.

 

[Shadowprophet]

Wait so every vision/dream you have comes true? Or are there times where it was a false flag? I have complete peace when it comes to not just my death but others as well. I have never lost anyone close however within the past year I've grown spiritually through knowledge of the word that I accept any and all deaths including my own or someones close. I think you need to control what you can control and accept you have a gift if the visions and dreams are completely accurate. And accept whatever God shows you in these visions and dreams.

no it's a mixed bag, I have a lot of dreams that are normal dreams, But there is usually a kind of feeling I get with the ones that are to come true.. like a very vivid somber feeling,, it's almost unmistakable.. (almost) But it still leaves room for me to question every bad dream I have.. So it gets confusing at times.

As far as the visions go,, those are kind of rare, but spot on every time.

 

[SkyWriting]

no it's a mixed bag, I have a lot of dreams that are normal dreams, But there is usually a kind of feeling I get with the ones that are to come true.. like a very vivid somber feeling,, it's almost unmistakable.. (almost) But it still leaves room for me to question every bad dream I have.. So it gets confusing at times.As far as the visions go,, those are kind of rare, but spot on every time.

It sounds like your mind is actively conducting various scenarios
based on input from your daily life. It is like a chess match being
played out while you sleep with various possibilities worked out.
Likely it has no unusual connection to actual future events.

 

[Shadowprophet]

It sounds like your mind is actively conducting various scenarios
based on input from your daily life. It is like a chess match being
played out while you sleep with various possibilities worked out.
Likely it has no unusual connection to actual future events.

I somehow doubt that when such dreams and visions are accurate down to the cloths people wear the items and personal effects they are holding and in more then one case the commercials on television that were playing.. this is without doubt precognition. but as i've suggested. This isn't something i'm worried about people accepting or not, Just seeking advice on the issues rather.

 

[Chama Nkaka]

i dont want to have the dreams,i never asked for them, i want them to stop,i have done everything possible to make them stop,i managed to get nothing for the past 2 months,i had another yesterday and it came true in one day,they are getting more intense,i dont want them at all,i dont want them at all,i want a normal life like everyone else

the dreams are good,they are dreams about good things in my life,they even keep me away from danger and point me in the right direction,but they have also brought me the worst pain i have ever felt in my life,i dont want them
so how do i make them stop

 

[Chama Nkaka]

dont give me no advice about they are good for me and what not,i just want them to stop,period

 

[Chama Nkaka]

the dream i had is showing me good fortune coming into my life

but i dont want the dreams
im done
im tired

 

[SkyWriting]

I somehow doubt that when such dreams and visions are accurate down to the cloths people wear the items and personal effects they are holding and in more then one case the commercials on television that were playing.. this is without doubt precognition. but as i've suggested. This isn't something i'm worried about people accepting or not, Just seeking advice on the issues rather.

If you bought the item advertised in commercials, in your dreams, then the strategy my marketing company uses is working on you. What is your zip Code? _________

 

[com7fy8]

"As each one has received a gift, minister it to one another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God." (1 Peter 4:10)

So, from this I get that a gift of God ministers His grace; and one of the main things God does in His grace is change our character so we grow in how Jesus is and loves while being so pleasing to our Father.

And we minister this grace to each other, as family. So, I would think a gift of God will help you to get blessed with other children of God . . . not get isolated.

But here we are, with you sharing with us, not only relating with your own family. And if God is the One giving you certain dreams > we need to seek and trust Him to have us doing what He desires and knows is good to do.

Reacting with fear is not trusting Him. He can guide you about who you tell and what we do. If it is His gift, it is for helping you and others to get closer to God and to minister to one another.

So, make sure your attention is guided by God and you are not distracted.