Actually, your concept of "person" is flawed.
A "person" is a legal definition, like "insanity." A sleeping person is a person because the law says he is. There is no other social definition.
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Not sure if you read through the thread or not.
It appears a dumb question, but it is difficult to justify. Perhaps instead of just bashing the thread, you could try to justify why it is wrong?
Its a question that raises further questions about what is the self, what is personhood, and what it actually means to kill someone.
Actually, your concept of "person" is flawed.
A "person" is a legal definition, like "insanity." A sleeping person is a person because the law says he is. There is no other social definition.
Rubbish, social definitions depend on their reasoning which can not be separated from the idea.
"because society says so" <- Is thoughtless and arbitrary. The why is what is important here in the justification for such definitions or else they are not just definitions.
There's no consensus about whether or when a fetus is a person.Then you're left with the abortion issue.
Then you're left with the abortion issue.
There's no consensus about whether or when a fetus is a person.
But law aside, everyone knows a sleeping person is still a person.
So your example isnt very useful.
I'm not really, as I already explained, abortion is wrong for the same reasons, but being a person doesn't matter if the question is whether or not you have the right to use someone else's body to survive against their will.
Does an unconscious person have a will? How unconscious? Comatose?
1. Do you really think even for a moment that the OP guy actually doubts that a sleeping person is still a person? He's just trying this idea out. But in real life he will treat a sleeping person like a person.1. "Everyone knows?" Not everyone. The OP has just given his personal definition of "person" that excludes anyone who is not immediately conscious, and I haven't seen a competing definition given by anyone that isn't just as personally subjective.
2. The fact that there is no consensus about whether or when a fetus is a person means precisely that there may not be a consensus of whether anyone is a person.
3. "Everyone knows" isn't very useful. There have been a lot of things "everyone knows" that hasn't been so.
I am most certainly not nonexistant when I am asleep.
What about if your body was in a coma?
What about if your body was knocked unconscious?
What about if your body was in a coma?
What about if your body was knocked unconscious?
OF COURSE the OP guy thinks its wrong to kill a sleeping person.Do you really support the viewpoint that it is okay to kill someone just because don't appear to be concious at the moment?
OF COURSE the OP guy thinks its wrong to kill a sleeping person.
Well, that doesnt work.Yea, but I get the feeling the intent was to segue that argument into the abortion argument.
Well, that doesnt work.
Its obviously not sleeping that's the issue. Its what is a "person" in the first place.
Well, that doesnt work.
Its obviously not sleeping that's the issue. Its what is a "person" in the first place.
In comas we often have other people make decisions on whether or not to continue life support if you haven't left written instructions.
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