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I fear that you take far too much for granted. We only know that carbon dating works on the items we already know the age of. If we do not know the age of the item, we cannot know whether the test is giving us accurate results. You can extrapolate, but you cannot be sure the extrapolation is yielding accurate results. In other words, it is a guess.
That's completely untrue. Carbon-14 is Carbon-14, regardless of the fossil in which it may be found.
I am not saying that carbon 14 is not carbon 14. Its presence is not even being questioned.
I tried to address this issue under the title "Pacifism," but there were not very many people interested in a wide pacifism discussion. Since I am confronted by the topics of gun control, gun rights, and worries of possible firearm legislation in nearly every newscast I see, I thought I might try to limit the discussion to one very specific pacifistic topic, killing.
As a Christian, I do not believe it is ever acceptable for one person to kill another person. What are your thoughts?
Is it ever acceptable (moral, good, etc.) to take a person's life?
If you think/believe it can be acceptable, under what circumstances would it be permitted?
If you think/believe it cannot be acceptable, what are your reasons for your view?
I fear that you take far too much for granted. We only know that carbon dating works on the items we already know the age of. If we do not know the age of the item, we cannot know whether the test is giving us accurate results. You can extrapolate, but you cannot be sure the extrapolation is yielding accurate results. In other words, it is a guess.
Then what on earth makes you think that carbon dating doesn't work on fossils of unknown age?
I think if someone is adamantly opposed to killing under any and all circumstances, they should
Why did Jesus say to buy a sword if someone didn't already own one?
You're not using the word "guess" correctly, then. The word guess implies consciously or subconsciously considering all evidence and then giving an answer that may be based on this evidence, but does not directly follow from the evidence.
Carbon Dating is a scientific process based on math that gives a range of possible dates. It is still a solution, or an answer, rather than a guess.
I think when God said, thou shalt not murder, that he was in no way saying a person has no right to self defense in the face of someone who's intent is to murder them.
I think if someone is adamantly opposed to killing under any and all circumstances, they should live the commitment by never calling police if they're threatened with physical or mortal harm.
And they should be vegan.
Rarely is the case however. It's easy to say no one should ever kill anyone for any reason, but when it comes to dying while upholding the pacifist commitment it rarely remains a constant.
God himself isn't a pacifist. If someone believes Jesus was God incarnate, then nor was Jesus in truth.
If he was pacifist as Jesus why did one of his apostles have a sword in the Garden of Gethsemane?
Why did Jesus say to buy a sword if someone didn't already own one? Swords in his day were the highest form of self defense or offense. Just like guns are the highest caliber of weapon today.
Now that, is a difficult passage! Does it refer to anything at all in a literal sense? Is it purely metaphor? Many have made the case both ways
I don't think you would call that a guess in any other situation. We can test DNA to see whose DNA it is. We don't need to know whose DNA it is first to know if it is accurate.
Radiometric dating works. Various parts of science all come to the conclusion of the old age of the universe, and of fossils.
Which is faster? Cops or the assailant that's right in front of you?And why is that? The presence of the police could prevent any harm to anyone.
If a person is committed to non-violence they should not contribute as a consumer to the violence inflicted on meat animals during the slaughter process. It takes a life. If they're opposed to violence and taking of a life under any circumstances, the qualifier of "life" and "any" implies that should apply universally. Not just to humans who are but one sentient being that feels.I am not a vegan, but I do not eat people. I am not sure how this relates. Can you elaborate a little more?
Interesting. So, worst case scenario (and God forbid), an armed assailant enters your home with the sole purpose of destroying your peace of mind, taking what you have and then leaving no witnesses. Let's say they're an assailant that has two strikes against them and you happen to live in a State with a three strike law (third strike lands them in prison for life).I can tell you that it is not easy to say that no one should kill under any circumstance especially if one has a family like mine. It is a difficult position to take, but I agree that it would be even more difficult to put into practice. I would be more likely to be killed to resist killing than to see my loved ones suffer. I pray to never be in that situation.
Yes, yes he did.God, as God, is not bound by any pacifistic teachings. Christ the man lived a pacifist's life, and He died a pacifist's death.
All is as God created it to be. Nothing happens without God's will behind it.Why do all Christians not do exactly as we should nowadays? We are imperfect. Christ was quick to admonish Peter and heal the injury Peter caused.
And yet a sword is an implement that is best used wielding as a warning one is armed for self defense. And if necessary to kill. A pacifist has no need of a sword, for it is not good for plowing fields.There were things in the world to defend against besides humans, and defending against humans is not prohibited. I believe killing humans is prohibited, but putting up a defense short of killing an attacker is acceptable.
Why would you make the claim I would euthanize a pet, when I made no such claim?
It is not our place to end someone's life, when we do, we are playing God.
Sure, in the sense that it's not an exact date but rather a range of dates, but the important thing is this: it CAN give an exact answer to some yes/no questions. For example, "is the Earth older than 1 billion years?"Guessing is guessing. It means to judge and make a decision based on what you think. It means to estimate. What it does not mean is to know. If you know something, you do not have to guess.
If you want to call it a solution or an answer because it is a mathematical process, go right ahead. The reason I called it a guess is because the solution or answer you receive lacks certainty.
And why is that? The presence of the police could prevent any harm to anyone.
I am not a vegan, but I do not eat people. I am not sure how this relates.
I believe killing humans is prohibited, but putting up a defense short of killing an attacker is acceptable.
We do have to have their DNA to prove that it is their DNA. There is the DNA found that is tested, and there is the DNA in the person that is tested to verify that it is his DNA. When carbon dating an item that is of an unknown age, there is no verification process available.
I do not know what radiometric dating is, but if it is used to determine the age of an artifact with an unknown age, I cannot see how its results are known to be accurate. Its seems to be limited by the same problem that affects carbon dating, a lack of verification.
The old age of the universe isn't even in conflict with Genesis, so who gives a crap?
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