Is Iraq executing POW's?

[JohnR7]

"Within 24 hours, the Army was hearing reports that some of the soldiers had been executed after appearing on television."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/30/international/worldspecial/30VCOR.html?ex=1049691600&en=40fcfbe16f37eabd&ei=5040&partner=MOREOVER

There have been "reports" that the soldiers who were seen on TV were executed by the Iraq army.

From the beginning, I have not been for or against the war. But if this report turns out to be true, if human life means that little to them. Then I may just change my position & become for this war.

We can win this war, that is not a problem. The question is, are we willing to fight as hard as we will need to fight and hit them as hard as we will need to hit them, to win the war.

Right now we need a reason to hit them that hard. To justify what we are doing. If they are executing prisons of war in that way. That would give us the reason we need.

Iraq may believe in the law, even justice under the law of an eye for and eye a tooth for a tooth. But God sent Jesus into the world to bring us grace, mercy, forgiveness and redemption.

Jesus died for the people of Iraq, the same as everyone else. But if they make the grace of God to be of no effect, then they are cutting people off from the redemption God has for them.

 

[Gunny]

Video Shows Arocitities Committed Against American Soldiers- WARNING: This is a very graphic, horrendous video. Yes, there is evil in this world, God calls it sin.

 

[l33tace]

Well I guess everyone has a boiling point. I hit mine over 12 years ago but I guess I’m not a very tolerant person. If they can turn their guns on their own citizens than what would stop them from anything you cant imagine? How atrocious does it need to get before it is acceptable to put a grinding halt to these continuing situations. Believe it or not we even still have POW’s in Iraq after 12 years of “peace”. 

John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Peace

 

[Gunny]

Confronting the evil

 

[feral]

if iraq is really murdering pow's the present no threat to them, then i will be changing my position on this war. i have always... ALWAYS supported the troops, especially in light of my brothers recent choice to join the navy...but i have been uncertain about the motives of this war. if we are really liberating people who want to be freed, then great...but if we are invading a country against the will of the people then we are in the wrong. i've heard some news articles also which are rather unnerving about our reasons for this.
cnn reported that showing some footage of the pow's would ensure their safety...since we know who is captured we can hold iraq responsible. i agree. it is certainly wrong to kill pow's, especially in light of the geneva convention...and even more so when you consider that pow's are posing no threat to iraqi armed forces.

 

[l33tace]

Senator suspects pilot alive in Iraq

 

[Taffsadar]

Today at 01:55 PM gunnysgt said this in Post #2

Video Shows Arocitities Committed Against American Soldiers- WARNING: This is a very graphic, horrendous video. Yes, there is evil in this world, God calls it sin.

It's dead soldiers. People are supposed to die in wars (thats how you win them). Wasting good young men like this is terrible but don't blame Iraq for it.

Back to the original topic. I very much doubt that they would shoot PoWs as it would be a free PR victory for the coaliation. The best thing the Iraqis can do is to treat them well and show it to the world as it gives them a slight moral edge.

 

[coastie]

Today at 08:42 AM Taffsadar said this in Post #7




It's dead soldiers. People are supposed to die in wars (thats how you win them). Wasting good young men like this is terrible but don't blame Iraq for it.

POW's are not supposed to die in wars.

Back to the original topic. I very much doubt that they would shoot PoWs as it would be a free PR victory for the coaliation. The best thing the Iraqis can do is to treat them well and show it to the world as it gives them a slight moral edge.

It's another conspiracy?

Ok, you're going to need to provide evidence, otherwise your statement will suffocate like a fish out of water.

 

[Lanakila]

This killing POW's plays well in the Arab world. International opinion is against it, but there are a minority of nations and peoples that would love our POW's to be raped, tortured, and killed. I hope its not happening, but am afraid it is. We are liberating these people. They fight at gunpoint.

 

[MichaelFJF]

Look at how they treat their OWN people. What kind of thinking person doubts that they're executing POWs??? PR??? Like they give a **** about PR. Come on. M

 

[cenimo]

Taffsadar

Wasting good young men like this is terrible but don't blame Iraq for it. Back to the original topic. I very much doubt that they would shoot PoWs as it would be a free PR victory for the coaliation. The best thing the Iraqis can do is to treat them well and show it to the world as it gives them a slight moral edge.

You are either blind or dreaming.

 

[Stormy]

I fear for the POWS who are not killed. What torture must they be enduring under the hands of this evil man?

 

[Stormy]

Taffsadar : To Suddam torturing and killing those that oppose him is moral.

If you wish to speak for a mad-man...you must first think like a mad-man.

 

[straightforward]

Just as much as I worry for the POW's I also worry about the families of the Iraqi people who are supporting our effort and shown on TV celebrating our arrival...how many of them are under the threat of death right now?

 

[cenimo]

all of them, that is a good part of the reason why we are there

 

[JohnR7]

Today at 09:34 AM feral said this in Post #5

if iraq is really murdering pow's the present no threat to them, then i will be changing my position on this war.

If the reports turn out to be true my position could change. Really my position on this war is already starting to change because of this POW issue.

You have a very young and very scared young man. They ask him what his crime was. He said I was following orders, I was doing what I was told to do. Then within 24 hours they find him dead with a bullet in his head. (This story has not been substantiated, they still have to make sure and identify the bodys.)

The is a denyal of all the love, grace, mercy, kindness and forgiveness that Jesus gave His life for. It makes everything I stand for to be of no effect. For me that sort of thing would represent an life not worth living if that is the way it was.

We are willing to die for what we believe in. They are willing to die, because they have nothing to live for.

 

[cenimo]

There have been several reports of them coming out and saying they will use the Islamic Rules regarding handling of prisoners- i.e., non-Muslims are interrogated and then executed... before they use the Geneva Convention.

They are not soldiers but merely thugs with guns and should be dealt with as the despicable low lifes that they are.

So much for anymore media tripe about Islam being a peaceful religion.

 

[Gunny]

Yesterday at 11:42 AM Taffsadar said this in Post #7




It's dead soldiers. People are supposed to die in wars (thats how you win them). Wasting good young men like this is terrible but don't blame Iraq for it.

Back to the original topic. I very much doubt that they would shoot PoWs as it would be a free PR victory for the coaliation. The best thing the Iraqis can do is to treat them well and show it to the world as it gives them a slight moral edge.

I served the United States proudly in the USMC for ten years. Three of those years were spent in Vietnam, in combat. The American soldiers shown in the video (two of them were shot in the head-death by execution) were murdered just as Saddam has murdered 1000's of Iraqis some of which were of his own family. I have seen victims of close range gunshot wounds to the head. The Iraqi's regime and it's leader is to blame for they have treated their own people of Iraq in the same manner.

PR? The Iraqi, VP was on the TV yesterday condoning and encouraging more suicide bombers.

Suicide bombers forced by gunpoint to blow themselves up in the presence of allied forces and/or non-combatants(civilians) isn't war-It's Terrorism.

 

[Doctrine1st]

I just hope Al-Jazzier(?) is brocasting this story along with the stories of the Iraqi army killing Iraqi civilians, but somehow if they are, I don't think it really matters.

 

[Taffsadar]

Yesterday at 04:46 PM coastie said this in Post #8



POW's are not supposed to die in wars.

Guess why I'm doubting the reports...

Yesterday at 04:46 PM coastie said this in Post #8
It's another conspiracy?

Ok, you're going to need to provide evidence, otherwise your statement will suffocate like a fish out of water.

Odd thing that no media in Europe has so far reported these supposed executions (and exactly how would the western media gotten to know about it?). Actually not even Al Jaazera have shown any evidence of executions. I guess it means it's another piece of propaganda from the coaliation forces.