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Is he "christian enough"?

J2911

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Hello all,

Brief background:
I visited this forum last spring, to post about my experiences with my parents. Based on my post & replies, it is apparent about the mental/emotional abuse I have endured from them. Especially my mother, who can be very hot and cold.

In this post, I will explain A) my boyfriend's faith, B) my mom's faith, C) my mom's view of my boyfriend, and D) my own concerns of my boyfriend.

Ok, moving on:
A) Currently, I am dating a man I intend on marrying. Spiritually, we have read christian marriage books together, take turns attending each other's churches (his family is baptist, mine is pentecostal), pray out-loud together sometimes, and ask each other about what we are doing in our personal devotional times (he reads his Bible at night before bed, and then sometimes during the day for liesure..although he admits his devotions are more Bible-reading centered and could include more prayer).

He has tremendous goals for his life, and has a specific business he hopes to have one day. When he talks about it, he mentions that he wants to have it have a "christian component", but serve both christians and nonchristians. At times when we talk about God, my boyfriend literally breaks down in (happy) tears. He tells me this is for a number of reasons: his love for God, he loves talking about God, how happy he is that he found a girl who loves God too (he used to deeply worry about this before we met)

B) Now, back to my parents. Actually...just my mom. Despite her issues, I know she is saved and is very devout about it. All day/night long, she has christian speakers and sermons on our TV. Really...ALL DAY LONG lol. She has mulitple shelves of christian books. She sings, raises her hands, and even cries during our church's worship service. In one-on-one "God talks" with her, she rarely prays with me or my siblings (I always have to ask her to, and she either says she feels uncomfortable, but will sometimes oblige) and she has never asked about our personal devotional lives. She will just say things like "how dare you read that secular magazine when we have these christian books!", etc. I am starting to feel guilty if I spend a lazy Sunday (after church) watching Law & Order instead of reading/watching christian stuff for hours on end. Sometimes I do! But not every week.

C) She really likes my boyfriend. She tells me, him, and a lot of other people lol. She has referenced him as my "soul mate" and even once told me "I have no doubt that you guys are meant to be together...if I did, I would say so!".....but then randomly (like a couple days later) she will question his faith. She will talk about how "great" she feels about me & him being together...and then she will ask me if I'm "sure" he is a christian. Why? Because he doesn't raise his hands during church worship (he was raised in a VERY conservative Baptist church with only hymns sung. We attend a Pentecostal church with a live band lol)...and she once asked him "what christian speakers do you listen to?" and when he said none, I could see the look of disappointment in her face.

She has even questioned me if him & I will even attend church when we're married, because he doesn't seem "into church" on account of his lack of raising his hands or clapping or whatever in church.

D) As for me, the only things that "bother me" about him spiritually are: he can get handsy lol during intimate times (we are in our 20s and have been dating for over a couple years). He has been "up my shirt", etc, but then we will talk about how wrong that is, then "be good" for a while, but then find ourselves going that far again. We have never ever been close to having sex and both are very intent on waiting until we're married. (Prior to meeting, we both weren't "living for God as much we should" and both went a "little too far" with members of the opposite sex. We have discussed that these past experiences of "knowing what it's like" contribute to our temptation.)

Also, instead of referring to his faith as "spirituality" and "my relationship with God" (which are terms I grew up hearing), he just says "my religion" and "Christianity" (after typing this, I feel like I'm being too picky. Perhaps I'm just used to the church I grew up in & the terms they use). On a brighter note, I have heard him talk about his faith to a couple atheists in his life, as well as listen to him talk about his personal devotions & desire to use God in some way in his career.

But...what my mom says gets to me. She is a very religious person. But what do you all think?
 
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Christianity is not about outward action. That's religion. The outward action comes from a gratitude for what Jesus went through to save us. You don't have to raise your hands to be genuinely worshiping the Lord. You don't have to watch Christian TV all day. God is not impressed by that. Do it if it helps keep you focused on God, but don't do it out of some sort of "religious duty."

A person's sincerity in loving the Lord will show through how they go through their everyday lives. It's a relationship. We have relationship with God through Jesus... our actions don't mean squat, all we can do is thank Jesus for what He did & follow Him. When we think we are more of a Christian than someone else because of what we do, that's dangerous thinking.

Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus || Spoken Word - YouTube
 
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I think your mother and your boyfriend are both sincere Christians with very different ways of living it out. They probably always will be. Are you ready for a lifetime of these head-butting sessions? :)

I think your mom needs to read Romans 14 a few times :D
 
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It's good you're paying careful attention to this decision, since you may choose to spend the rest of your life with this man. It's no small decision. And regarding your mom's concerns, many devout believers are uncomfortable raising their hands and showing other outward signs of emotion in a worship service. Can you give him time to loosen up? What's in his heart? Is he growing in his relationship with the Lord? Those questions may be more important than the concerns your mother's expressed. May the Lord guide you both, and guard your hearts and minds.
 
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Many believers don't need to "loosen up" and get "comfortable" with hand-raising and shouting during worship. Someone who worships quietly or without a big show is no less authentic or genuine in their communion with God. I don't think this young man needs to be changed in any way. His relationship with God is his, nobody else's. If someone wants to shout and dance when worshipping, let them. If another wants to sit quietly in reverence, let them. Neither is better, more spiritual, or more sincere than the other.
 
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I'm a Pentecostal too, and I would love it if I could find a guy who shares not only my faith, but also my denomination, but that might not happen. It's hard for me to say this because I feel very strongly about my denomination, but truthfully denominations are based on minor differences. As Christians we should focus on the things we have in common - that Jesus died on the cross to save our sins. I would never claim to know for sure that someone's a Christian. Ultimately, only God knows, but the issues you raise aren't things that would make me question his salvation.
 
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I think your mom is too focused on the external validation and how things look. To really know if someone is following God just watch them. They will show it in how they walk through everyday life. It's not about putting your hands in the air at church. In fact it's not even about going to church as many think of it. It's about knowing the message of God and living it out joyfully.
 
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It just sounds like he's more low-key in how he expresses his faith. This doesn't mean he loves God any less.
Amen.

Christian faith isn't about the way we worship and pray, it's that we worship and that we pray and who receives that worship and prayer.
 
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